June 15, 2025

Parades, Protests, and Problematic Words

Parades, Protests, and Problematic Words

Send us a text Tonight on 2 POGs Save the World, we bring the heat with no guest and no filter. The country is marching, shouting, and spiraling—and we are breaking it all down. We start with the President’s grand military parade and the rising wave of No King protests pushing back against power displays. Then we turn to the deterioration of the American education system and ask who is really benefitting from its collapse. Finally, we dive headfirst into the evolution of language, tackling th...

Send us a text

Tonight on 2 POGs Save the World, we bring the heat with no guest and no filter. The country is marching, shouting, and spiraling—and we are breaking it all down.

We start with the President’s grand military parade and the rising wave of No King protests pushing back against power displays. Then we turn to the deterioration of the American education system and ask who is really benefitting from its collapse. Finally, we dive headfirst into the evolution of language, tackling the weight, history, and modern context of the “N” word and how society continues to wrestle with its meaning.

Uncomfortable truths. Raw perspective. Two POGs. Let’s get into it.

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00:00 - Episode Introduction

08:54 - Trump's Leadership and 'No Kings' Protests

26:42 - Israel vs. Iran: Analyzing the Conflict

58:35 - Evolving Nature of Modern Warfare

01:12:56 - Immigration Policies and Border Control

01:44:36 - Language Evolution and Cultural Impact

02:10:19 - Education Standards and Future Society

02:24:06 - Episode Wrap-up and Future Debate

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Hey Gee man, what do you want to do tonight?

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The same thing we do every night Pinky, Try to take over the world.

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All right, yo, let's get into it.

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Try to take over the world.

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You're preaching freedom to the public.

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Try to take over the world.

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And the greatest chaplain in the world, mr Lance O'Neill, try to take in the world.

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Mr Lance O'Neal, trying to take over the world.

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Yo yo yo, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up.

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World man, I am glad to see y'all faces again.

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I am KJ Bradley, back with the best chaplain in the world.

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Thank you, sir, for holding it down last week.

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Your show was amazing.

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I got a chance to watch it in bunches because we were out of power, getting used to this California power surging structure.

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It's a little bit weird, but what up, though.

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Chat, looking good, man, how you doing?

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Happy Father's Day, first and foremost.

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Yeah, well, thank you, and I, I'm gonna hang up now and make you do the next hour.

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Listen, man, I, um, I don't know cali's weird man.

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They, they, they have weekly scheduled um maintenance on the electrical here, um, which is I haven't experienced that before, that well, not in america.

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I've experienced it, you know, in iraq or whatever.

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We've powered down and we've come black out before, but seeing it done here in america is weird.

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California is a weird place, man.

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It could be extremely beautiful and extremely rough, all within a couple of blocks and I just we, we're getting our sea legs about us, but it is slowly getting getting used.

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What's up, though, man?

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Busy week.

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Yeah, I was able to catch up.

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No, no, yeah, not really.

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I mean, I didn't not much happened this week, it's I'm trying to think of anything that happened this week.

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I can't put my finger, especially on the global, really um, I mean, well, I will say this.

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Uh, I didn't.

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I don't think I saw the announcement that trump is the king now I.

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I assume that if he was going to make that announcement, it would have been yesterday during the parade, and he'd come out and said I take the crown of America and I am now your emperor.

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The Jedi have attacked me and left me disfigured.

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Listen, I Seriously.

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If he had done it, how funny, how funny if he'd gotten up and said that.

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If he'd gotten up and said the jedi have attacked, the jedi have attacked me, they've left me disfigured listen, man, I, I was surprised.

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Even here in in our local community, there were no king's protests and I, I it's.

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It's so weird, man, it's, and that's, it's stupid, it's stupid.

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Crazy Right, but these protests lack flavor.

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They lack black people.

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You can tell there's no, why?

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Ok, there's no, why do?

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they lack.

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Why do they lack?

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Why, why do they lack?

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flavor.

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This is strictly all you know.

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I hate to put it that way, but this is America.

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Black people have been sitting this one out since the election, and rightfully so.

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I understand why no, no, these protests are.

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It's because this is not.

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Oh, did you?

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Okay, there you go.

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This is absolutely a coordinated movement.

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Yeah, my Wi-Fi has been weird, I don't know if I'm just in the wrong room or what, but yeah, this is.

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This is coordinated.

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This is not so so let's, let's talk about it.

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Written all over it this, this is ridiculously dumb.

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Oh yeah, and that's why I say it lacks.

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For you saying it lacks flavor, I say it lacks heart.

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This is an absolute.

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When you can have X number of people show up right after an event and they have professionally made placards and they have an organized leadership.

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Well, that was hard enough for me to say right, but I said I might need some help, kk.

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But when you have this level of coordination, it makes you go.

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This is not real.

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It's not in LA.

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It became this.

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I'd really like to know who thought no kings?

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I saw a pretty good meme on this.

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We already have a no kings day.

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It's called July 4th.

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That was you know.

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Trump is not trying to make himself the king.

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He's not in there to Trump is there.

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You and I have talked about this multiple times.

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Trump in there to trump is there.

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You and I have talked about this multiple times.

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Trump is there to break the machine.

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He is there to cause chaos to.

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Potentially, I think trump in 2017 was there to break the machine.

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Trump in 20 whatever year we're in, he's a he's a useful idiot.

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Well, I know you think that and I think that there is.

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To me it's the reset button.

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It's not an easy reset but unfortunately, to me the reset button is not enough because it's not in the right place, and I think that's where the fallout with Musk came in.

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That's where the fallout with Musk came in.

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I think Musk thought the reset needs to come from a financial reset, a true shrinking of the federal government, a real look at, a hard look at things like social security, the entitlement spending and I don't think that Trump entitlement spending, and I don't think that Trump is going along with that because he realizes that that is how you lose a midterm election as well, because the minute you start taking money away from people's pockets, they get all pissed off and people like their money.

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That's ultimately, I think, kind of what it is.

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And the tariffs, the tariffs.

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I don't know about the tariffs still, because you know, was it a win, was it a lose?

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Was it a wait?

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And see I think at the very least we're at a wait and see the Doge stuff.

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I think it could have really been a real positive, but then it got wrapped up in a lot of stuff that it wasn't.

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It didn't come down to cost cutting, but the idea that it's a well.

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I mean, if it was a cost cutting, it will be cost cutting down the road, simply because it took a look at contracts.

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But again, this is all I like the ideas, but it's in the wrong places.

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Again, if you want to really make some significant changes to the financial status of America, why are we subsidizing massively large corporations that produce oil and petroleum products?

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Why are we subsidizing massive agro corporations?

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Yes, we love food and, yes, all that stuff.

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But if we are subsidizing these giant, giant corporations, how many corporations run the world?

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What is it Like?

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12 or something?

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They're all.

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They're all subsets.

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Yeah, they're all intertwined and all that stuff, pepsico owns like 18% of the market and of different things and or or whatever they are.

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And to me, that's really where it comes down to is, if you're serious about this stuff, then first of all, stop subsidizing mega corporations.

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You don't need to.

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You don't need because and I get it the idea is you're not just subsidizing the corporations, you're actually subsidizing the stock market, which subsidize subsidizes the people that invest the the stock market.

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This subsidizes not only rich people, but middle class people who invest.

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But, realistically, that's where you make those cuts.

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That's where they need to be.

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As far as the government goes, yes, I think we are bloated as a government and we need to reduce the workforce by probably 10% to 20%, depending on how you do it, but that doesn't mean you automatically cut the last in.

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Some of those people that are last in are the ones you want in there.

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What you really want to get rid of are those people that are there 10 to 15 year middle management that are sitting back just saying, hey, I'm a staff sergeant, I've already been in for 10 years.

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This sucks.

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I don't really want to do my job, but you know what?

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I'm close enough to retirement.

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I can suck it up for eight to 10 more years, right, and I'm going to do the bare minimum.

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But instead of rewarding that specialist who is a hard charger or even a pfc, and you're going, hey, this kid, he could really.

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You know, he could.

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Actually he should be running the shop.

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You have a staff sergeant.

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Well, I have the rank, but, dude, you don't want to do anything?

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Yeah, but I'm the staff sergeant, I've earned this, okay.

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So what are you going to do to fix the problem with your shop?

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Well, I mean, it's not really my fault that the shop is broken.

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Those are the guys you want to get rid of.

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Yeah, so do you think?

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Do you think those did their job?

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um, I think it was a wash at best.

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I I think that I again, I like the idea and I think that the way they did it, unfortunately was the red tape I guess would be the way to get in the way it's like you're going through.

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There was no red tape.

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They did it.

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There was no red tape.

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No, there's always red tape in the government.

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Dude, there's always something who stopped them?

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Oh well, you have the media pushing back, you have the Democrats pushing back, you have the deep state pushing back.

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So it's not that Doge had unlimited power, because you still bump up against legislative and laws, right?

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Well, no, the legislative team was on their side.

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The reason people pushed back was because they were doing what they weren't supposed to do.

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I'll give you an example.

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Let me give you one example.

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Sure, you can't say we're coming in to cut finance right, that was their sole purpose.

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Right Doge is created to waste, get rid of waste right six months and not one dod audit.

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The dod has, as we've discussed several times, has never passed and not in 20 odd years, yeah, 25 years, something like that, yeah create a, you create an organization who's coming in to find the fraud, waste and abuse and in six months they do not even sniff the DOD.

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It's a red flag.

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But what they did is they went in and they went to the IRS.

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They got all the social security numbers, they got all the personal data, they infiltrated DOE, they got all the loan information, borrows information, so all of this stuff where for me, it's another one of those.

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Hey, this is what we're going to do, but the minute you approve it, they go do something completely different, right, and then you sit back and look oh well, we tried.

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No, you really did not.

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If you look at it like, if you look at it objectively, what did those accomplish outside of stealing data, which is what I said they were going to do six months ago?

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They accomplished nothing.

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The savings that they, the savings that they found or eliminated, were minuscule.

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We did nothing, but we I don't disagree.

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Nothing, I don't disagree.

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I don't disagree on the DOD part at all.

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But I think that when I say that the red tape and all that, because you can say the legislative, the Republican legislative, was behind Doge, but they didn't pass a single law to actually do anything, and that's part of the problem, it's a status quo you can say oh yeah, I'm behind.

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Hey, dude, I'm behind you.

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You go do what you got to do.

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Hey, I need help with this.

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No, you go do what you got to do.

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Hey, we need to change the law here to fix this.

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Oh well, you go do what you got to do.

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Well, but wait a minute, we need to look at how we're spending money.

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Yeah, but you go do what you got to.

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There's a point where and this goes beyond Doge, this goes something I've been arguing now 10 years is executive orders.

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Executive orders are not the way you're supposed to govern.

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And I get, there are times where executive orders are, if not necessary, they are legitimate.

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But you've seen over the past three administrations and I'm saying Trump, biden, trump that that has become the norm.

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And yes, they can sit there and they can say, well, it's because the legislature is ground to a halt.

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Ok, fine, but you know what Part of the job of the president is to say this is the policy that we want to pass and then we need to come together and find that common ground.

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Famously, reagan and O'Neill back in the early 80s on political sides were were polar opposites, but they would sit down.

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If I remember the story rights, they got together.

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I believe it was every single week.

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They sat down and had a lunch and said, all right, where are we?

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What can we do here?

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Like what?

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Legitimately?

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One of the things I've argued the best thing that happened to Clinton was the 94 red wave, the contract with America, with, with newt gingrich, because for those first two years there were there was a democrat senate and there was a democratic house, and then you added so here, even then they.

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Then they got together and said, okay, so this, I want this, you want this, I want this and those't.

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But you know what?

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What about this?

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Yeah, yeah, I can do that.

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So the good ideas got through and that absolutely helped Clinton.

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But we're at a point now where if you're a moderate, if you're a Manchin or Romney or whoever in the middle, you're seen as somebody that is a rhino or whatever the equivalent of a Democrat rhino is, do you know?

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I don't know, but you even see that in the Democratic Party.

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I think it was our good friend, governor Walz from Minnesota, the failed vice presidential candidate.

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He came back I think it was this week and he said the reason we lost is we didn't go far.

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The American people don't think we went far enough on the progressive side.

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Really, that's what you think the problem was Okay?

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I mean, I hope so, because you know, you see Republicans.

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I'm sure you saw the video of the guy who was in his car talking about the LA riots and he basically said hey, you know what?

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Keep going, Because every person who sees this, you're creating a new red voter, because you have people jumping up on cars, burning down cars with Mexican flags and the ads are writing themselves for Republicans and there's a level of truth to that.

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But I think he's right.

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That said, I don't see anything that Republicans have done in the first.

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What are we now?

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Five?

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months, six months, six, now Five months, six months.

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Six months in.

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Yeah, you know, I've said, give it time, give it time, and so it's not that I'm unimpressed, but I'm certainly not impressed.

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I think this has been six months of a lot of bluster, a lot of hey, we're going to get a lot of we're going to swing for the fences and I've basically seen a lot of foul balls.

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We are right, we're still in the first at-bat, we haven't gotten anything done and all we're doing is fouling off pitches.

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As a country, it's like, okay, and meanwhile Israel's coming in and going grand slam, boom, we're going to do something.

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So with that, let's switch to what's going on with Iran and Israel.

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Yeah, all right, so here we go.

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So I put this caption up as Israel versus everybody, because right now it seems like Israel is just like well, hell, we already started.

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We might as well just keep rolling.

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For those of you guys who don't know hey, what up man?

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Hey, I'm so glad to see your face, brother.

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Thanks for joining us tonight.

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Hey, so Israel, the vulnerable country of Israel, who we have solemnly sworn to protect no matter what, has just been on a rampage.

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I remember I went back and I looked at a couple of episodes when they first started the issue with Hamas and I said Israel is that drunk cousin that you don't, you really don't want to have around, but when they're, you know they're family, so you have to protect them, no matter what they do.

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And it's one of those things where it's like okay, hey, I understand, hamas bombed you unprovoked, you went scorched earth.

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Justification was well, they still have our hostages, you would do the same thing.

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And I said, okay, that's a weird flex, but sure, alright, cool.

00:17:51.847 --> 00:18:01.819
And then, out of nowhere, they go shooting up Iran and you're like dude why that's not out of nowhere no, iran.

00:18:02.702 --> 00:18:12.027
So Iran has never, never preemptively, struck at israel, even though it's been, even though it has been an accident existential.

00:18:12.027 --> 00:18:13.970
No, for the last.

00:18:13.970 --> 00:18:25.008
Whatever they, they've been mortal enemies for god knows how long, but iran has never directly just sent missiles and struck well, what was that word you just used?

00:18:25.409 --> 00:18:36.478
yes, that no, no, the d word directly directly oh how is iran indirectly attacked israel no, we all right.

00:18:36.498 --> 00:18:46.674
So if turnabout spare play israel has is has unequivocally messed with Iran consistently over the last 48 years Absolutely.

00:18:46.674 --> 00:18:53.339
Israel has become the king of throwing stones and then throwing their hands up and be like we got to protect ourselves.

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Directly, absolutely Okay.

00:18:57.903 --> 00:18:58.685
Here's my take on it.

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But this is something that has been coming for 10 years the idea of Iran having a weapon.

00:19:07.931 --> 00:19:12.664
I saw a British guy who was talking about this from about eight years ago and he said this is what's going to happen.

00:19:12.664 --> 00:19:30.307
It's basically what's happened, but Iran has, within the last couple of months, the World Watchdog and I'm blanking the name of the nuclear watchdog and it was the one that, yeah, it's the one they made fun of.

00:19:30.307 --> 00:19:32.111
Team America, hans Briggs?

00:19:32.111 --> 00:19:42.088
Oh no, not Hans Briggs, mr Kim, you will do what we say, or else we are going to write you a very strongly worded letter.

00:19:42.088 --> 00:19:46.270
Oh no, not Hans Briggs, fuck you hubrics.

00:19:46.270 --> 00:19:52.244
But basically OK.

00:19:52.244 --> 00:20:06.875
So the International Atomic Agency I think that's what it is yeah, so they basically came out, I think last month, and said, yeah, iran is just ignoring everything we're putting out.

00:20:06.875 --> 00:20:08.624
They are full of crap.

00:20:08.624 --> 00:20:10.648
They are well on their way.

00:20:10.648 --> 00:20:17.561
They are eminently going to be securing a nuclear weapon Eminently.

00:20:17.561 --> 00:20:35.376
It could be a matter of days and they have increased their production of weapon-grade nuclear material by 50% increase in the last two months, right, yeah, okay.

00:20:35.376 --> 00:20:40.865
So to me, israel's going all right.

00:20:42.568 --> 00:20:48.056
We were really close to having a deal with Saudi before Hamas attacked us.

00:20:48.056 --> 00:20:54.633
We're already in a pretty good spot with Egypt, because Egypt doesn't want to get involved in anything right now.

00:20:54.633 --> 00:20:57.028
Egypt they're, they're over there.

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Saudi they're kind of, and Saudi doesn't like Iran either.

00:21:00.180 --> 00:21:01.564
Remember Sunni and Shia.

00:21:01.564 --> 00:21:08.859
So Saudi is not on Iran's side either.

00:21:08.859 --> 00:21:09.342
Remember Sunni and Shia.

00:21:09.342 --> 00:21:10.044
So Saudi is not on Iran's side.

00:21:10.044 --> 00:21:15.481
Gaza is now a war zone that has been completely destroyed, so Israel's not really worried about a lot of attacks coming from Gaza and Hamas right now.

00:21:16.284 --> 00:21:20.221
Hezbollah, if you remember, a few months ago, they kind of went oh yeah, well, we're going to.

00:21:20.221 --> 00:21:24.192
And they got hit in the face and went oh crap, no, no, we're out.

00:21:24.192 --> 00:21:28.369
The Houthis were like, oh yeah, but we have ours, boom.

00:21:28.369 --> 00:21:30.248
And then the US went no, you guys are done.

00:21:30.248 --> 00:21:53.039
So now you've got Israel and Iran in a one-on-one situation, and you remember I think it was last year Israel punched a nice little jab right to Iran's face, right, they killed one of the top leaders, and Iran went you cut through the Tos and they launched a couple of missiles and then, ha ha, you see what we did to Israel.

00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:59.651
And Israel went oh yeah, oh no, you blew up part of the desert, oh no, okay.

00:22:00.362 --> 00:22:16.565
So now we're at a point where and I understand the argument because Israel will say with a straight face that we never instigate, we only react.

00:22:16.565 --> 00:22:20.970
And they will say that with a straight face, no matter how many times that has been shown.

00:22:20.970 --> 00:22:30.105
That's wrong, because what they do is they, preemptively, they kick the guy in the balls and say, f, you, you're not going to, hey, we're going to be in a fight.

00:22:30.105 --> 00:22:34.441
Hey, look over there, boom, boom, boom, I'm going to knock you out, I'm going to hey.

00:22:34.441 --> 00:22:35.384
Before we even.

00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:53.932
They're the guy in the bar who says, hey, you want to take this outside, and as they're getting ready to walk out, he grabs a bottle off the table and crunches them out, and then he throws them outside and say GTFO, right, okay, yeah, which I understand, because at the same time, while they're in the bar, that dude has been talking smack.

00:22:53.932 --> 00:22:58.694
He's going to kick Israel's butt and really, you know, mess him up and his buddies are all around.

00:22:58.694 --> 00:23:02.157
Well, right now, there's no buddies around.

00:23:02.157 --> 00:23:07.381
It's Iran and Israel.

00:23:07.381 --> 00:23:08.403
There's no buddies around, it's iran and israel.

00:23:08.403 --> 00:23:22.285
And I think iran's going oh crap, well, we have these missiles, so we're gonna launch these missiles, but iran, but israel's going, go ahead, we've got, I mean, you look at the numbers that I don't think it's necessarily Iran.

00:23:23.365 --> 00:23:28.290
Iran has never really been afraid of Israel, right?

00:23:28.290 --> 00:23:29.632
Because if it was one on one?

00:23:29.632 --> 00:23:35.336
If it was one on one, iran and Israel would be a coin toss.

00:23:37.441 --> 00:23:45.688
Oh, no, no, I don't agree with that at all, Iran has always been concerned and worried about who is backing Israel.

00:23:45.688 --> 00:23:55.237
Iran has shown restraint because they don't want the issues of America coming down on them after the fact.

00:23:55.237 --> 00:24:07.586
But just to play devil's advocate right, as much as Israel sits back and says well, we're constantly under attack, we got all these enemies around us.

00:24:07.586 --> 00:24:12.209
Iran has been like but dude, leave us alone and we'll leave you alone.

00:24:12.209 --> 00:24:15.971
If you stop telling people that we're trying to kill you, we won't kill you.

00:24:15.971 --> 00:24:19.513
It's really that simple.

00:24:20.314 --> 00:24:25.857
But Iran's whole thing is death to Israel and you guys don't have a right to exist.

00:24:29.700 --> 00:24:30.991
And we're going to use every proxy we can to wipe you out.

00:24:30.991 --> 00:24:31.779
Both ways, though, but it's both ways.

00:24:31.779 --> 00:24:34.166
Israel's whole thing is Iran.

00:24:34.166 --> 00:24:37.785
Doesn't we have to preemptively strike, because if we don't, you're going to kill us?

00:24:39.228 --> 00:24:39.468
Yes.

00:24:40.229 --> 00:24:40.549
Right.

00:24:41.652 --> 00:25:15.259
Of course, but that's no-transcript.

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Yom, yeah, the six-day war.

00:25:17.082 --> 00:25:18.064
Yeah, the yom kippur war.

00:25:18.064 --> 00:25:30.144
Right, so each time, each time they have been attacked, because they are seen as not only this, I'm not even sure.

00:25:30.144 --> 00:25:32.951
I'm not sure you can't put this in religious terms.

00:25:33.700 --> 00:25:34.101
You, I mean.

00:25:34.101 --> 00:25:34.603
But you ever?

00:25:34.603 --> 00:25:40.660
You ever think about if everybody around you hates you, then maybe it's not everybody else's problem.

00:25:40.660 --> 00:25:42.063
Maybe you may be.

00:25:42.063 --> 00:25:46.893
You may be a problem if everybody else in the region hates you.

00:25:46.893 --> 00:25:52.578
Has the thought never crossed the mind that, hey, maybe, just maybe we may be the problem?

00:25:52.719 --> 00:26:18.980
israel strikes me as the, the woman who always dates bad guys and will come out and say, well, every guy sucks, every guy sucks, without looking very different so I know it, because if you look historically, OK and you can go ancient, anciently, you can go fast forward to the time of Christ, you can fast forward into the time of the Roman Empire, fast forward to the Holocaust, you have this.

00:26:18.980 --> 00:26:30.541
This, the Jewish faith, is a very interesting dichotomy because the way Hitler put it is just insane, but this is kind of how it seems.

00:26:30.541 --> 00:26:40.855
Is all the Jews are a bunch of evil, shape-shifting, horrible, less than human people who rule the world.

00:26:40.855 --> 00:26:44.784
Which is it?

00:26:44.784 --> 00:27:01.145
Are they the dumb mongoloid group that is subhuman, or are they so super intelligent that they control the world?

00:27:01.145 --> 00:27:04.932
You can't have it both ways, and that's what Hitler did.

00:27:04.932 --> 00:27:08.125
That I mean Hitler, full on, was like the Jews.

00:27:08.125 --> 00:27:11.333
They are the ones that made us lose the war with the generals.

00:27:11.333 --> 00:27:23.403
And if it wasn't for the Jews and all this stuff, and they are pieces of garbage and they are worthless and they are nothings but they controlled the world and made us lose, what so the Holocaust?

00:27:23.463 --> 00:27:23.624
Now?

00:27:23.624 --> 00:27:34.494
Would the same thing be happening if Israel had been created between Montana and Saskatchewan?

00:27:34.494 --> 00:27:37.443
I'm doing well with my words today.

00:27:37.443 --> 00:27:48.641
No, no, it wouldn't have been right of it right.

00:27:48.641 --> 00:27:50.244
But historically, if you go back anciently, because Israel was.

00:27:50.244 --> 00:27:56.020
For thousands and thousands of years they were in the Palestinian, the Canaan area, and that's where the UN decided to do it.

00:27:56.020 --> 00:28:19.565
And so now you fast forward from the late 1940s, multiple wars that have been 1940s, multiple wars that have been gang up on Israel, and Israel has gotten quite honestly, they've gotten kind of probably should have lost If Egypt and Syria during the Six-Day War had actually attacked at the right time.

00:28:19.665 --> 00:28:21.691
I believe it was Syria that delayed.

00:28:21.691 --> 00:28:27.226
If I remember my history right, Egypt and Syria were supposed to attack at the same time and open a two-front war.

00:28:27.226 --> 00:28:39.906
It didn't work because Israel went or, I'm sorry, Egypt went and Syria sat on their hands for about three days and by the time Syria jumped in, the Sinai was already gone.

00:28:39.906 --> 00:28:43.102
Israel had gone in with the air force and wiped out the Egyptian forces.

00:28:43.102 --> 00:28:45.690
Then they were able to turn around, go north and take out Syria.

00:28:45.690 --> 00:28:47.385
Now I could be wrong, could be vice versa.

00:28:48.482 --> 00:28:49.788
With the help of America.

00:28:50.820 --> 00:28:52.729
Well, with the help of American arms.

00:28:52.729 --> 00:28:56.123
They didn't get help from American military, but, yes, the arms.

00:28:56.123 --> 00:28:58.182
Absolutely Right, they had.

00:28:58.201 --> 00:28:59.366
American advisors.

00:28:59.366 --> 00:29:03.608
That was an American mission just like now.

00:29:03.608 --> 00:29:04.832
Just like now.

00:29:04.832 --> 00:29:06.526
So here's the thing right.

00:29:07.701 --> 00:29:11.372
Do you think Israel listens to America at this point as far as advisories go?

00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:14.288
Now not so much, but then definitely.

00:29:14.288 --> 00:29:15.190
So here's the thing, right?

00:29:15.190 --> 00:29:25.221
So Israel, right after the reconsolidation and the divvying up of land right in the early, early 20th century, imagine everybody in the region saying, all right, cool, well, we.

00:29:25.221 --> 00:29:25.584
20th century.

00:29:25.584 --> 00:29:31.108
Imagine everybody in the region saying, all right, cool, well, we got this minority, got this minority state right and we wanna find a peaceful way.

00:29:31.108 --> 00:29:32.664
We know it's not gonna be peaceful.

00:29:32.664 --> 00:29:34.346
We've been at this for thousands of years.

00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:38.443
We're gonna figure out a way and the UN says, hey, no, no, no, we're the power brokers.

00:29:38.443 --> 00:29:45.271
We're gonna take this small minority and we're gonna designate all of this land, crossing all these cultural boundaries.

00:29:45.271 --> 00:29:51.461
And if anybody crosses this land or disfigures this land, we are going to come at you with everything we got.

00:29:51.461 --> 00:30:01.751
We can see how that can cause friction in the region, right, because you take a minor population and you just gave them land, which is cool, whatever, right?

00:30:01.751 --> 00:30:11.625
So then what happens is those who were given this land, this minority population who was given this land, comes back and says you know what?

00:30:11.625 --> 00:30:15.691
Hey, not only do we want this land, we also want that.

00:30:15.691 --> 00:30:18.086
Can you help us get that?

00:30:18.086 --> 00:30:26.190
And the footprint keeps growing and growing, while everybody in the region is saying hey, man, you weren't supposed to get that land, just be cool.

00:30:26.190 --> 00:30:28.213
And it just continued to grow.

00:30:28.213 --> 00:30:29.616
And what israel says?

00:30:29.676 --> 00:30:48.559
well, if we don't get that land that we were rightfully old, we're going to fight you for it, but they're not fighting fair so and I completely disagree with you on that historically, because when, if you want to say that Israel should not have been made in 1949, I think it was 1949.

00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:50.772
Fair, I mean, you can make that argument.

00:30:50.772 --> 00:30:51.700
Ok, we'll make that argument.

00:30:51.700 --> 00:30:52.563
But it did happen.

00:30:52.563 --> 00:30:55.171
And as soon as that happened as well.

00:30:55.171 --> 00:31:07.650
But part of the British mandate was there was going to be a Palestinian state as well and the, and that was declined to have.

00:31:07.650 --> 00:31:26.703
They said if we accept that israel is here and we accept this peace deal to also have a palace, you know, whether you make israel or not, if you make israel and give us about, and we accept that, I mean israel, and they never the muslim, the middle east never wanted, wanted Israel to come back Because, like you said, it's land right.

00:31:26.703 --> 00:31:37.133
So what they do, the first thing they do, is, as soon as the mandate happens, within a year, boom, they attack and Israel went okay, spoils of war, which is a normal thing.

00:31:37.133 --> 00:31:38.353
We kicked your butt.

00:31:38.353 --> 00:31:43.738
So now we're going to expand, we're going to keep the Sinai, we're going to keep the West Bank.

00:31:43.738 --> 00:31:45.583
We're going to keep Gaza.

00:31:45.583 --> 00:31:47.430
We're going to keep the sinai, we're going to keep the west bank, we're going to keep gaza.

00:31:47.430 --> 00:31:48.354
We're going to keep the heights the next time.

00:31:48.374 --> 00:31:55.951
And and so israel started and they got bigger and bigger and bigger, and then over the last 50 years they've given stuff back.

00:31:55.951 --> 00:32:06.923
Now that is not to say that there haven't also been individual settlements that have gone in and popped up that shouldn't have popped up according to their own rules.

00:32:06.923 --> 00:32:18.794
Right, and you know, it probably would have helped if Israel had said, okay, hey, here's our border, guys, so let's not go into their areas, let's back off.

00:32:18.794 --> 00:32:32.700
But at the same time, I'm sure the justification in a large part is I really don't care that this is a border If I want to move there, because we just had some dude go in and blow up a bus in Tel Aviv.

00:32:33.821 --> 00:32:34.423
Do you know why?

00:32:34.423 --> 00:32:47.153
Because I got the preeminent power of the world behind me and if anybody crosses me, all I got to do is make a call and say, hey, we're being attacked, come defend us, right?

00:32:47.153 --> 00:32:50.107
So here's the thing.

00:32:50.107 --> 00:32:52.525
If Israel had been left alone to its own bison, right?

00:32:52.525 --> 00:32:54.742
We say, okay, israel, here is your land.

00:32:54.742 --> 00:33:03.625
You are now a country, good luck, we'll get you set up, we'll give you everything you need to defend yourself and then go about it.

00:33:03.625 --> 00:33:06.382
If you get taken over or whatever, sorry, right.

00:33:06.382 --> 00:33:08.488
I mean alliances have been formed, whatever, right.

00:33:08.488 --> 00:33:09.289
But what?

00:33:09.289 --> 00:33:14.011
What happened was Israel became the Chihuahua in the region.

00:33:14.011 --> 00:33:20.266
Right, they kept nipping at the heels of everybody because they had the damn kennel behind them protecting.

00:33:20.266 --> 00:33:22.710
That's all that was.

00:33:22.710 --> 00:33:23.651
That's all it is.

00:33:23.750 --> 00:33:30.509
It's still evident to this day Israel, everything Israel's shooting is not from Israel.

00:33:30.509 --> 00:33:33.943
And it's twofold because the United States uses Israel to do its dirty work.

00:33:33.943 --> 00:33:34.865
You know what I'm saying.

00:33:34.865 --> 00:33:36.651
We understand the game, we both know.

00:33:36.651 --> 00:33:48.224
We both have been around the tactical, operational sphere long enough to know that it's pay for play sphere, long enough to know that it's pay for play.

00:33:48.224 --> 00:33:50.592
And the united states has used israel as their pseudo, pseudo henchmen for decades.

00:33:50.592 --> 00:33:52.096
Now, right, oh, they do the work that we can't.

00:33:52.096 --> 00:33:52.676
We can't do.

00:33:52.676 --> 00:34:00.465
So it's, you know, one hand washes the other, but so we got to get to a point to where we got to get to a point to where we got to start calling this thing out.

00:34:00.465 --> 00:34:01.869
You know, equally and fairly.

00:34:01.869 --> 00:34:03.125
Hey, okay, israel, stop fucking with people.

00:34:03.125 --> 00:34:03.950
To put it crass, stop fucking with people.

00:34:03.950 --> 00:34:04.593
You know, equally and fairly.

00:34:04.593 --> 00:34:05.458
Hey, okay, israel, stop fucking with people.

00:34:05.458 --> 00:34:07.325
To put it crass, stop fucking with people.

00:34:07.325 --> 00:34:14.929
Nobody, you know people, will probably be a lot more open to diplomatic means to help you if you stop fucking with them.

00:34:14.929 --> 00:34:16.403
No, they won't.

00:34:16.403 --> 00:34:17.688
No, they won't.

00:34:17.688 --> 00:34:19.706
Well, again, in 2000,.

00:34:19.706 --> 00:34:20.282
Let's go back.

00:34:20.282 --> 00:34:22.842
Let's go back and look here as recently as 2000,.

00:34:22.842 --> 00:34:24.128
I think it was 2011,.

00:34:24.128 --> 00:34:28.144
Back, let's go back and look here as recently as 2000.

00:34:28.144 --> 00:34:29.007
I think it was 2011.

00:34:29.027 --> 00:34:29.869
Obama had the, the middle eastern court.

00:34:29.869 --> 00:34:30.170
Where is iran?

00:34:30.170 --> 00:34:32.880
Was like, all right, cool, hey, man, to appease america, we are cool.

00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:34.483
Bring israel to the table.

00:34:34.483 --> 00:34:36.467
We'll come to the table and we're done.

00:34:36.467 --> 00:34:38.692
It was all but wrapped up.

00:34:38.692 --> 00:34:43.045
But then the predecessor of obama came in and said you know what?

00:34:43.045 --> 00:34:44.909
No, bump that Iran.

00:34:44.909 --> 00:34:45.550
You don't get it.

00:34:45.550 --> 00:34:48.215
You don't get a seat at this table, we'll defend Israel.

00:34:48.215 --> 00:34:54.621
And then the red team got all up in rounds about it and they got all antsy and loud like they did and they splashed.

00:34:54.621 --> 00:35:06.862
So at this point, if you sit back and you look at it like that, you've got to say, well, this is you know, this is, this is done objectively, it's not a matter of peace it's a matter of art.

00:35:06.882 --> 00:35:07.503
We have to keep this going.

00:35:07.503 --> 00:35:09.327
So, okay, few things I want to touch on.

00:35:09.327 --> 00:35:21.719
The us has had the back of israel since its formation in 1949, right, yes, okay, do you know who was supporting all the arab states since 1949?

00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:24.786
Yeah, there you go.

00:35:24.786 --> 00:35:26.429
So this isn't just the.

00:35:26.429 --> 00:35:27.612
This wasn't just.

00:35:27.612 --> 00:35:29.764
This was absolutely a proxy thing.

00:35:29.764 --> 00:35:41.942
A lot of this has been proxy wars, right, so so the US supporting Israel is not a surprise when you go, ok, well, you know the Russians are supporting Syria and Iran and all those.

00:35:41.942 --> 00:35:50.896
Ok, so the other part of what's going on is you've never had Iran even recognize Israel.

00:35:50.896 --> 00:35:54.146
They don't even say Israel, they say that country.

00:35:54.146 --> 00:35:55.945
It's like BYU and Utah.

00:35:55.945 --> 00:35:58.543
It's so funny, the University of Utah.

00:35:58.543 --> 00:36:01.371
You'll hear their coaches say that school down south.

00:36:01.371 --> 00:36:02.623
They won't even say BYU.

00:36:02.623 --> 00:36:07.842
That's what Iran and Israel are like, right, it's a rock yeah.

00:36:08.264 --> 00:36:11.992
Yeah, and so that's that's what I'm saying, like at this point.

00:36:11.992 --> 00:36:18.257
Yeah, because Israel does America's dirty work, especially in the Middle East.

00:36:18.257 --> 00:36:29.278
It's their only democracy in the Middle East, it's the only, it's the only country that has the intestinal fortitude to basically say you know what?

00:36:29.278 --> 00:36:37.253
We are in a legitimate kill or be killed situation and so, yeah, we're going to do what we got to do.

00:36:37.253 --> 00:36:40.626
If it's a knife fight, we're bringing out, we're bringing a gun right.

00:36:41.068 --> 00:36:41.710
The US.

00:36:41.710 --> 00:36:43.570
We always talk about in the US.

00:36:43.570 --> 00:36:44.208
You and I are both soldiers, right.

00:36:44.208 --> 00:36:45.536
So when we talk, always talk about in the us, you and I are both soldiers, right.

00:36:45.536 --> 00:36:51.673
So when we talk about, well, the terrorists aren't, uh, following the geneva, well, why should we?

00:36:51.673 --> 00:36:53.862
And what's the answer for every american soldier?

00:36:53.862 --> 00:36:59.472
Because we wear this flag, we have your standards.

00:36:59.472 --> 00:37:02.704
And israel goes we don't give a flying f about that.

00:37:02.704 --> 00:37:06.552
We don't want somebody sneaking up behind us and slashing our throats, right?

00:37:06.552 --> 00:37:13.512
So I don't have a big problem with Israel going in and taking out the nuclear trying.

00:37:13.512 --> 00:37:14.134
I don't even know.

00:37:14.134 --> 00:37:21.153
The last report I saw was not all of the sites were rendered inoperable.

00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:22.023
I don't know how you would.

00:37:22.103 --> 00:37:37.202
honestly, so it's going to be interesting, but I I think that what's going to happen in the coming weeks is you're going to have yeah, iran's going to launch a bunch of scud missiles and israel's going to keep striking and they're going to escalate.

00:37:37.202 --> 00:37:41.431
It's not going to go nuclear because israel's the only one with a new.

00:37:41.431 --> 00:37:43.927
If it goes nuclear, it's going to.

00:37:43.927 --> 00:37:49.347
It's going to be on Israel's part because they're the only one with one.

00:37:49.347 --> 00:37:53.309
But I think at that point they would actually lose the support of the US.

00:37:53.309 --> 00:37:56.467
So they can do everything up to excluding.

00:37:57.130 --> 00:38:26.331
Yeah, excluding, because I think if they dropped a nuclear because you remember back in the day you're talking about the mid-2000s you and I both know that if they had done a DOD poll that said, should we turn, should we end this war, it would have been 95% that said yes, yeah, go ahead and just drop a big one on Tehran and we can all go home right, because Tehran was backing everything after 03.

00:38:26.331 --> 00:38:27.498
That was all Tehran.

00:38:27.498 --> 00:38:35.126
That wasn't the Iraqi people per se, that was the Iranians coming in and killing all of our guys, all the IEDs, all the shape charges.

00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.527
I mean, but we knew charges, but we knew that, though we knew that.

00:38:39.050 --> 00:38:42.146
Right, but at the same time, by knowing it but not willing.

00:38:42.146 --> 00:38:44.311
It was Cambodia 2.0.

00:38:44.311 --> 00:38:45.300
It was.

00:38:45.300 --> 00:38:49.085
We know everything is going through Iran, but we as Americans?

00:38:49.085 --> 00:38:55.514
Well, iran didn't officially declare war against us, which is ironic because we didn't declare war against Iraq either.

00:38:55.574 --> 00:39:04.364
Technically so, but it was one of those yeah, yeah, it was one of those things that America, even America, we kind of went.

00:39:04.364 --> 00:39:40.827
But you know, I remember reading a story I think I've told you this story before, but I remember reading a story years ago that Iran I'm sorry, israel had a team ready to go to go assassinate Saddam Hussein well before the Gulf War, right, and they the second Gulf War, and they had the team ready to go and the day before they were doing their final run through, which was with live, live ammo, and they actually had a mishap and a hand grenade went off and it killed like five of the 12 team members, which made them combat ineffective.

00:39:40.827 --> 00:39:59.769
So, of all the what ifs in the world, you think where would we be today if, instead of having to go in and have Gulf War 2.0, if that hand grenade hadn't gone off and Mossad had gone in and actually killed Saddam, assassinated Saddam Hussein?

00:39:59.769 --> 00:40:02.067
How much different this world would look right now.

00:40:02.780 --> 00:40:06.003
It's one of those really interesting, but it's then.

00:40:06.003 --> 00:40:09.990
Rumsfeld wouldn't have made money, right, we were going.

00:40:09.990 --> 00:40:10.994
We were going to Iraq.

00:40:10.994 --> 00:40:13.708
We were going to Iraq regardless.

00:40:14.742 --> 00:40:15.304
I don't think so.

00:40:15.304 --> 00:40:19.570
If that, I don't think, if that happens, I think it would have been something else, but you're right.

00:40:19.570 --> 00:40:21.326
Yeah, I think you're right about the money.

00:40:22.222 --> 00:40:25.590
You had to secure the stability of the region, right.

00:40:25.590 --> 00:40:26.632
That was the whole thing.

00:40:26.632 --> 00:40:31.492
The whole vision was we were going to expand the democratic footprint.

00:40:31.492 --> 00:40:36.791
Iraq would now become a second Democratic foothold.

00:40:36.791 --> 00:40:43.092
However, the Democratic elections in Iraq did not turn out the way we thought they would.

00:40:44.659 --> 00:40:46.561
Well, not to.

00:40:46.561 --> 00:41:02.101
I think the bigger thing there also is just the absolute ridiculous miscalculation of firing everybody in the iraqi government and not and not hiring oh, you were a bath party guy, nope.

00:41:02.101 --> 00:41:12.730
And if you contrast that with what happened in japan, with what macarthur did, macarthur went in and he basically said all right, who are your top guys?

00:41:12.730 --> 00:41:14.474
Yeah, get, get them in here.

00:41:14.474 --> 00:41:15.525
Hey, are you willing to work?

00:41:15.525 --> 00:41:16.690
You guys lost.

00:41:16.690 --> 00:41:19.884
Now, of course, there's a cultural difference here.

00:41:19.884 --> 00:41:23.440
And the japanese were like we lost, you win, we'll do what you say.

00:41:24.202 --> 00:41:33.224
Uh, but macarthur didn't go in and shut down the police force and shut down the um, all the stuff that goes along with a huge mistake.

00:41:33.224 --> 00:41:40.047
Oh, it's probably the biggest mistake the us has made in the past 30, 40 years, especially geopolitically.

00:41:40.047 --> 00:41:45.302
I, I again and and I think that that was I I understand the idea behind it.

00:41:45.302 --> 00:41:50.221
Oh, we're going to go in and we're going to make iraq into, but you can't do this with people.

00:41:50.221 --> 00:41:56.070
Americans are very, very bad about understanding other cultures.

00:41:56.070 --> 00:42:00.824
It's well, we're Americans, this is everybody's democracy.

00:42:01.445 --> 00:42:02.929
You want to be like America, don't you?

00:42:03.289 --> 00:42:04.333
Everybody loves America.

00:42:04.333 --> 00:42:05.682
Hey, we've seen the Poland.

00:42:05.682 --> 00:42:07.929
If you want to go to another country, you want to be in America.

00:42:07.929 --> 00:42:08.521
We're the best.

00:42:08.521 --> 00:42:09.664
I get it.

00:42:09.664 --> 00:42:10.425
I get it.

00:42:10.485 --> 00:42:16.422
But at the same time you can't take somebody who is a goat farmer and say we're going to bring you.

00:42:16.422 --> 00:42:26.552
Do you remember, do you remember the movie with Robin Williams where he was a Russian dissident who comes from the.

00:42:26.552 --> 00:42:48.710
He defects from I don't remember what he defected from, but he comes to America, right, and he defects and he goes to the grocery store for the first time and he's standing there and he can't move because he's in a supermarket, and just a normal supermarket.

00:42:48.710 --> 00:42:49.472
But there are so many choices.

00:42:49.472 --> 00:42:55.264
He's paralysis by analysis because he's going how do you have all these stuff, what we don't have?

00:42:55.264 --> 00:43:00.320
It like he, it the russian, his russian brain was not able to understand it.

00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:03.130
And americans are kind of like the exact opposite, like well, I can't.

00:43:03.130 --> 00:43:04.302
It's just a supermarket.

00:43:04.302 --> 00:43:04.903
What do you mean?

00:43:04.903 --> 00:43:11.242
You go in, you buy what you want and he's going you have 50 different kinds of cereal.

00:43:11.242 --> 00:43:21.202
When I go, when I stand, I have to stand in line for three hours to get a box of whatever cereal they give me and you have.

00:43:21.202 --> 00:43:23.771
How do I choose?

00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:37.556
And so I think that when you have a situation where, like right now with Israel and Iran, I really think that I think the US is going to continue backing Israel as they always do.

00:43:37.556 --> 00:43:49.710
I don't think there's a red line other than the nuclear, and I think that here's here's part of the other problem, and this goes back to kind of the conspiracy, little tin hat stuff going on.

00:43:49.710 --> 00:43:57.432
Well, israel just came in and hit the oil of Iran.

00:43:57.432 --> 00:44:03.972
Right now, remember, the crude oil manufacturing in Israel is not what it used to be.

00:44:03.972 --> 00:44:05.766
I believe it's under 5% of the world.

00:44:05.766 --> 00:44:13.773
But if you take out 5% of the oil-producing nation, that's going to affect the money.

00:44:13.773 --> 00:44:15.634
Mod scow on the Hudson.

00:44:15.634 --> 00:44:15.965
Thank you, thad.

00:44:15.965 --> 00:44:16.688
Yes, that's exactly to affect the money.

00:44:16.688 --> 00:44:16.867
Mod scowl on the Hudson.

00:44:16.867 --> 00:44:16.996
Thank you, thad.

00:44:16.996 --> 00:44:18.503
Yes, that's exactly what it was.

00:44:18.503 --> 00:44:27.469
And if you are, it's almost like you study movies there, thad, but if you go in and you do that.

00:44:27.469 --> 00:44:54.132
So my question is and this is something with the conspiracy theory that you sent me on Friday morning about the Pizzaeds dominoes or whatever it was, yeah, like if you had, if you had, a smoking gun of a message went out to certain trump supporters that said you might want to short your oil for the next three months.

00:44:54.132 --> 00:44:57.115
Maybe you have something right.

00:44:57.115 --> 00:45:00.079
We'll see how it goes.

00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.007
I don't think this is going to turn.

00:45:02.007 --> 00:45:19.242
I think we're at the point where maybe Russia-Ukraine is the last true boots on the ground war that we're going to see maybe ever just because of the technology with drones and some of the other stuff we have.

00:45:19.242 --> 00:45:32.447
And at that point then the real question becomes is America still yes, you have the nuclear and all that, but like boots on the ground, I'm not sure boots on the ground is ever going to happen again, because Israel does.

00:45:32.447 --> 00:45:33.891
Israel put boots on the ground Now.

00:45:33.891 --> 00:45:43.822
Yes, they're in Gaza, get it, but I don't know.

00:45:43.842 --> 00:45:45.028
I don't think this escalates into a what I hope.

00:45:45.028 --> 00:45:47.260
Here's what I hope happens.

00:45:47.260 --> 00:46:14.007
I hope Israel goes in and kills every top person they can find in Iran and America actually supports the spring revolution in Iran, like it should have done back with Iraq in 92, 91, 92, when we didn't, if we had supported the people of Iraq like, like we promised in 91, or was it 90?

00:46:14.007 --> 00:46:16.952
Um, we don't have.

00:46:16.952 --> 00:46:17.994
Go for it.

00:46:17.994 --> 00:46:22.885
It was my junior year in high school, so it was 90 or 91, when the first go for happened.

00:46:22.885 --> 00:46:31.967
If we had supported the Iraqi people like we promised and the revolution had happened.

00:46:31.967 --> 00:46:37.960
But instead we cut base, we cut them off and we didn't support them, it was very much a Bay of Pigs.

00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.807
I'm surprised there weren't more comparisons of the Bay of Pigs.

00:46:40.807 --> 00:46:48.893
But if we had supported them like we were supposed to and like we promised, we never get to Gulf War II.

00:46:48.893 --> 00:46:49.922
We're a very different world.

00:46:49.922 --> 00:46:55.222
So I'm kind of hoping that what happens in Iran from this whole thing is they do rise up.

00:46:56.585 --> 00:46:59.492
You look at pictures of Iran from the mid 70s.

00:46:59.492 --> 00:47:06.099
Iran in the mid 70s was New York, los Angeles, st Louis.

00:47:06.099 --> 00:47:29.740
It looked like a normal American world where women walked around in skirts and men walked around in in, you know, ties and suits and and, and it's something that I think would be great if, if they rose up and they were able to overthrow the uh, the theocracy that they have.

00:47:29.740 --> 00:47:31.985
I just don't know if they will.

00:47:31.985 --> 00:47:38.375
I mean, you have, you've had now 50 years of death to America and the West is evil.

00:47:38.375 --> 00:47:42.003
How, how do you overcome that?

00:47:42.003 --> 00:47:47.266
I don't know, but it's going to be interesting, because I don't think they're going to get support from the rest of the region.

00:47:47.407 --> 00:48:21.501
If it's, if it's Israel and Iran, it's going to be a one on one, and Iran cannot win a one on one militarily with Iran and Iran cannot win a one-on-one militarily with Iran technologically, if Iran is somehow able to get back If they're backed by, if, with America standing back in the shadows punching, doing their hand like this, watch, right, it's like being on the schoolyard fight, right, like you've got two kids in the middle of the circle and technically it's a one-on-one fight, but one kid knows, if he whoops that other dude's ass he's got to fight the rest of the friends in the circle sitting in the back watch.

00:48:22.061 --> 00:48:23.264
So you're kind of.

00:48:23.264 --> 00:48:36.554
You're kind of iran, maybe kind of in this spot, like because you got to keep in mind, like, all right, just for as long as iraq I mean, israel has been prepping for iran iran has been prepping just as hard, if not harder, for it.

00:48:36.554 --> 00:48:42.909
Oh sure, that's why we're seeing these new hypersonics that are starting to land in Israel.

00:48:42.909 --> 00:48:45.681
That Golden Dome has been there almost 30-40 years.

00:48:45.681 --> 00:48:50.523
You don't think Iranian scientists haven't been planning and plotting how to get through it for the last 40 years.

00:48:50.523 --> 00:48:52.525
They haven't been sitting on their hands.

00:48:53.682 --> 00:48:54.827
Do you think those are Iranian?

00:48:54.827 --> 00:48:55.469
Do you think those are Iranian?

00:48:55.469 --> 00:48:57.612
Do you think those are Iranian scientists who are coming up with that stuff?

00:48:57.612 --> 00:48:59.295
Or another country a little bit further north?

00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:07.407
I mean, you know, the same way you know they use weapons, you know.

00:49:07.407 --> 00:49:10.353
Oh sure, suspiciously painted red, white and blue.

00:49:10.353 --> 00:49:13.365
You know it's one of them things.

00:49:13.365 --> 00:49:14.644
That's how it works, man.

00:49:15.021 --> 00:49:16.387
It's almost like geopolitical.

00:49:17.101 --> 00:49:18.311
Yeah, like I to tell people it's almost like geopolitical.

00:49:18.311 --> 00:49:21.047
Yeah, it's like I try to tell people man, don't get caught up in what you see on the news.

00:49:21.047 --> 00:49:24.771
You got to look behind the, you know, peek behind the curtain and see who the real wizard is.

00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:28.068
This is, you know this is how the world's been at play.

00:49:28.068 --> 00:49:29.492
Oh, for sure.

00:49:42.579 --> 00:49:45.208
And you have to wonder what's going on with Russia, because, remember, the Ukraine war was supposed to last for like two weeks.

00:49:45.208 --> 00:49:46.411
Oh yeah, I mean that that drone strike really messed them up.

00:49:46.411 --> 00:49:46.693
They were not.

00:49:46.693 --> 00:49:46.793
That.

00:49:46.793 --> 00:49:47.414
That was tactically brilliant.

00:49:47.414 --> 00:49:48.077
I, I was, I stood up and I clapped.

00:49:48.097 --> 00:49:59.882
When I saw that, I was like that is fantastic and that is why I, and that is why at this point, when I see articles in the new york times about has the us lost the high ground militarily because of drone strikes?

00:49:59.882 --> 00:50:07.103
I actually worry about that because china you legally, if I remember, you can't.

00:50:07.103 --> 00:50:14.344
They have passed laws in america that have kept it illegal to actually build drone, american drones.

00:50:14.344 --> 00:50:23.324
So unless the military is building them, Well, no, those drones, they're all.

00:50:23.324 --> 00:50:23.827
Chinese.

00:50:23.827 --> 00:50:25.271
They're all Chinese.

00:50:25.271 --> 00:50:27.806
They're off the shelf, half of them.

00:50:28.748 --> 00:50:30.784
When you look at it tactically.

00:50:30.784 --> 00:50:32.443
They had those drones.

00:50:32.443 --> 00:50:36.693
They sent them drones in on supply trucks at the beginning of the war.

00:50:36.693 --> 00:50:40.266
Right, so you have to you have to start thinking.

00:50:40.266 --> 00:50:41.789
You got to start thinking technically.

00:50:41.789 --> 00:50:46.947
How much crap is china shit to us that are sitting in warehouses?

00:50:47.829 --> 00:51:08.811
you know what I mean like and how many and how many military age young men have come across the southern border like I'm sitting, I'm sitting here, you know I've been at the technical game for a while but I'm like, oh, that's, that's interesting, right, like if, if that doesn't raise a red flag for, like the, the populace in america.

00:51:08.811 --> 00:51:14.148
Because, you know, we got a general, we got a general conception here in america that we're untouchable.

00:51:14.148 --> 00:51:21.487
Right, and we were right, nobody was going to land ships or planes in America and put boots on the ground.

00:51:21.487 --> 00:51:36.987
But in this new war space, in this new digital war space, where we got hypersonics and we got drones that are capable of, you know, reaching out and touching you, you got to really be concerned that, hey, man, we aren't as secure as you think.

00:51:36.987 --> 00:51:37.327
We are.

00:51:37.327 --> 00:51:39.708
Right, there, there's just no way.

00:51:39.708 --> 00:51:48.231
Like I'll give you a prime example that beeper technology that they use, that israel used, that was early 2000s tech, you know.

00:51:48.251 --> 00:51:57.492
I mean, that was early 2000s tech and it was supremely efficient right and it was, and it was stuff they put into place years ago.

00:51:57.612 --> 00:51:58.434
You get what I'm saying.

00:51:58.434 --> 00:52:04.523
So you know the tactician in me is thinking like man that is, if they were able to pull.

00:52:04.523 --> 00:52:06.530
You know it's like Bugs Bunny pulling that old.

00:52:06.530 --> 00:52:09.248
You know pulling the old Acme sign out of his bag.

00:52:09.248 --> 00:52:11.121
Man we are.

00:52:11.121 --> 00:52:14.423
We got other stuff to worry about as a country.

00:52:15.063 --> 00:52:26.974
So part of the problem that the US and you know this and I know this is that we're at war, we are at cyber war with both Russia and China right now.

00:52:26.974 --> 00:52:29.036
Everybody else, yeah okay.

00:52:29.036 --> 00:52:42.708
You could say Ukraine, even, or whoever, yeah Okay, but we are in active warfare, literal, active warfare on the cyber side, against both China and Russia right now.

00:52:42.708 --> 00:52:56.070
This is why the space force and getting into space is such a big deal, because space you could do if you are.

00:52:57.172 --> 00:52:58.032
I don't think the U?

00:52:58.032 --> 00:53:20.456
S has a plan to do anything against China If there were to be a a active shooting war, because we, we would be so reliant on carriers and missiles and all that stuff.

00:53:20.456 --> 00:53:43.086
This idea and maybe it's fair, maybe it's a fair idea that we don't really need to worry ourselves about China all that much, simply because there's this thing called the Pacific Ocean between us and it's basically basically you can't really America, america cannot be defeated by land forces.

00:53:43.086 --> 00:53:45.907
We've seen it, it's called Red Dawn.

00:53:45.907 --> 00:53:49.760
It just come across the borders.

00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:55.409
You're going to have a bunch of rednecks running through the woods saying let's go shoot at some Chinese people.

00:53:56.541 --> 00:54:07.389
There's a reason why America and Russia have remained the two most dominant empires of the 20th, 21st century because you cannot traditionally.

00:54:07.389 --> 00:54:13.527
You can't invade them in traditional manners Now, in this new digital landscape again.

00:54:13.527 --> 00:54:16.248
That's why controlling those chips are so important.

00:54:16.248 --> 00:54:23.943
That's why people are saying our reliance on china is going to come back to bite us in the butt sooner rather than later.

00:54:23.943 --> 00:54:29.523
Because in this new digital war, yeah, he who owns the tech owns the upper ground, right?

00:54:29.523 --> 00:54:29.864
Remember?

00:54:29.864 --> 00:54:32.090
I remember coming up we said we own the night.

00:54:32.090 --> 00:54:33.001
Right, that was our thing.

00:54:33.001 --> 00:54:33.764
We own the night.

00:54:33.764 --> 00:54:34.507
We own the night.

00:54:34.507 --> 00:54:35.733
Well, um, there is, was our thing.

00:54:35.733 --> 00:54:36.135
We own the night.

00:54:36.135 --> 00:54:36.476
We own the night.

00:54:36.476 --> 00:54:39.045
Well, there is no more night, it's 24 hours daylight.

00:54:40.206 --> 00:54:45.969
So you know, people are getting attacked in broad daylight and we have to do a better job as a nation.

00:54:45.969 --> 00:54:57.681
But see again, that's what bothers me with this whole administration and all the left and right, you got the war within with the Christian national movement.

00:54:57.681 --> 00:54:58.623
You know what I'm saying.

00:54:58.623 --> 00:55:03.646
We can, we can agree to disagree on some of the final nuances of the Christian nationalism.

00:55:03.646 --> 00:55:06.681
I think that's the most existential threat to the nation.

00:55:06.681 --> 00:55:27.880
Um, and and and, since it's exception, but I digress that diversion, that that pseudo white supremacy diversion is going to end up costing us because, like I showed you with the, the whole, the whole pizza thing, right, you have our pentagon and these.

00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:36.635
These were a bunch of school-age kids who created an app to track the, the volume of orders in correspondence.

00:55:36.655 --> 00:55:36.896
That's on.

00:55:36.936 --> 00:55:37.498
Google.

00:55:37.498 --> 00:55:38.679
That's what I'm saying.

00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:40.146
That's on Google.

00:55:40.146 --> 00:55:55.722
My point is if kids are able to figure this out with rudimentary technology, what are our near peers surveilling us as a target tier?

00:55:55.722 --> 00:56:02.869
You sit back and you say, okay, well, we don't want to get into a point to where we're creating patterns or we want to be tracked, that sort of stuff.

00:56:02.869 --> 00:56:17.509
This administration is extremely lackadaisical with their procedures, to the point where it's almost comically braggadocious.

00:56:17.509 --> 00:56:21.824
Right, it's like we've become the the real life good word.

00:56:21.824 --> 00:56:24.909
You know, I mean, you cannot.

00:56:24.909 --> 00:56:25.590
We're america.

00:56:25.590 --> 00:56:26.052
So what?

00:56:26.052 --> 00:56:32.014
Yeah, so okay, so I was using unsecured, you know, whatsapp or whatever, to send missions.

00:56:32.014 --> 00:56:33.498
So what, what?

00:56:33.498 --> 00:56:34.864
We, we're the ones that make it up.

00:56:34.864 --> 00:56:35.769
We're the ones that make it up.

00:56:35.769 --> 00:56:36.434
We're the ones that make it.

00:56:36.434 --> 00:56:36.936
Who's going to stop us?

00:56:36.936 --> 00:56:37.440
You know what I'm saying.

00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.041
We got to realize and we got to understand.

00:56:40.061 --> 00:56:46.865
But I mean at its core, lance, at its core right, we can agree to disagree all this other stuff.

00:56:46.865 --> 00:56:48.746
You put the red and blue stuff to the side.

00:56:48.746 --> 00:56:56.871
At its core, you and I both know if you can be trapped by the enemy, you are in danger.

00:56:56.871 --> 00:57:00.028
There is no other way to put it.

00:57:00.028 --> 00:57:02.519
If you can be tracked by the enemy, you are in danger.

00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:11.875
And if, if our administration is doing things to where we can be tracked by school age kids, imagine what our near peers are.

00:57:11.875 --> 00:57:15.068
What information are near peers are gathering on this?

00:57:15.068 --> 00:57:16.751
That is a serious concern.

00:57:17.521 --> 00:57:27.730
So the first thing, on the pizza thing okay, if you don't know what that is, there's these kids that look back and they said there was a spike what was it, friday morning in the number of pizzas that had been ordered.

00:57:27.730 --> 00:57:40.273
And so because there was this spike, therefore the US actually did know what was going on in Israel when Israel was attacking Iran, because they obviously ordered all these pizzas so they could go in and watch the live stream.

00:57:40.273 --> 00:57:44.710
And so the US was lying when they said we didn't really know what was going on in Israel.

00:57:44.710 --> 00:57:49.143
So that's kind of the backstory to that For this incident.

00:57:49.143 --> 00:57:59.815
So for me, I look at that and I go eh, I mean, I'm sure any time of day of year you could have certain things where you go, boom, here's this beep.

00:58:00.376 --> 00:58:07.632
After the fact, it turns out, oh hey, you know there was this special legislative session or hey, we didn't, there was this emergency, whatever.

00:58:07.632 --> 00:58:09.885
There was no specifics to it.

00:58:09.885 --> 00:58:27.956
That's why, to me, that that one doesn't matter, the signal one, that's obviously a bigger one, but the problem with the Signal and the chips and all that, my concern is that I would guess, and I have absolutely zero insight.

00:58:27.956 --> 00:58:47.777
I don't have any insight or baseball anything on this, but I would guess somewhere between 60 and 70 percent of every single computer and electronic device and surveillance and camera et cetera, already has Chinese malware in it and they can shut it down by pressing a single button.

00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:54.762
I agree, all right.

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So we're going to cut it short here for those guys, for those guys that are watching us on Roku Thank you so very much for for another episode.

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We're glad to have you guys.

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We will see you guys next week.

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For those of you guys who are following us on social media if you're on roku, hop over on social media, come join us, join the conversation.

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For everybody else, we're gonna keep rocking here, uh, in a sec.

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So we're gonna pause, do our little tactical pause x right here.

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Okay, cool, now we back.

00:59:15.568 --> 00:59:21.384
But yeah, so I have to agree, man, it's just one of those things where I don't know.

00:59:21.384 --> 00:59:29.864
Like I said I've always said this to you and I've been consistent I've never been concerned with a Trump presidency.

00:59:29.864 --> 00:59:37.036
He is no more smart or dumb than any other president involved.

00:59:37.036 --> 00:59:45.746
I told you my biggest concern with his administration is the people who he is allowing to manipulate him in the administration.

00:59:45.746 --> 00:59:52.268
And six months in, we can say Rubio was a solid pick.

00:59:52.268 --> 00:59:56.400
You can have your own personal rights with Rubio, but I think Rubio was a smart play, right, you know, depending.

00:59:56.400 --> 01:00:00.344
You know you can have your own personal rights with Rubio, but I think Rubio was a smart play.

01:00:00.344 --> 01:00:02.661
He's been good Outside of that.

01:00:02.681 --> 01:00:03.344
Yeah, he's been solid.

01:00:04.126 --> 01:00:10.003
Outside of that, these dudes are the worst kind of manipulator.

01:00:10.327 --> 01:00:12.286
Let me bring up one.

01:00:12.286 --> 01:00:14.309
Let me bring one up.

01:00:14.309 --> 01:00:17.362
And first, before I bring the one up, I want to make something up.

01:00:17.362 --> 01:00:18.405
I want to make one.

01:00:18.405 --> 01:00:23.753
We still don't know who was running the presidency for the last two years of the Biden administration.

01:00:23.753 --> 01:00:25.594
Ok, because it wasn't Joe Biden.

01:00:25.594 --> 01:01:03.711
But if this is true, I saw a video that said of the top 10 on the FBI's most wanted list.

01:01:03.711 --> 01:01:07.570
Now again, I have not fact checked, I don't know.

01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:13.623
That sounds like an X mean, and it might be that sounds totally like an X mean Well but again it was.

01:01:14.123 --> 01:01:16.271
It was one of those things that I saw on a video.

01:01:16.271 --> 01:01:24.565
I'd be curious, I'd be very curious to know, because you know it was one of those reaction videos of somebody going on yeah and it was like they were on.

01:01:24.565 --> 01:01:29.260
You know, oh, I'm watching this guy on nbc morning news or something like, so I don't know.

01:01:30.621 --> 01:01:35.623
But but honestly, I mean absolutely not, I'd be curious, I don't know, I want to know.

01:01:35.623 --> 01:02:08.829
But but was talking about how proud she was about the parade that happened yesterday and the Army 250th and how she saw that some troops were griping, that they had to participate or that there even was the parade or whatever Right.

01:02:08.829 --> 01:02:14.407
And what I said to her was well, you know, that's part of the manipulation.

01:02:14.407 --> 01:02:18.295
And she said well, I didn't see any, any manipulation by Trump.

01:02:18.295 --> 01:02:23.764
He got up and he said how proud he was of the troops and, you know, it was like it was all about the birthday.

01:02:23.764 --> 01:02:25.394
And I was like, no, that's not what I mean.

01:02:25.434 --> 01:02:26.942
I'm talking about the media manipulation.

01:02:26.942 --> 01:02:28.465
I've seen that in my friends.

01:02:28.465 --> 01:02:39.603
I've seen people on Facebook that have bought hook line and sinker things that the media puts out about very important things like what's going on in Gaza.

01:02:39.603 --> 01:03:06.333
I have a friend that is all in on the Gaza thing and whenever I point out and say you know, there's still hostages, hamas is still holding hostages, well, that doesn't matter, it matters to Israel, it matters to the families that have their hostages, and then I love the one, then the response is well, israel has a thousand Palestinian hostages.

01:03:06.333 --> 01:03:13.713
You mean prisoners in jail, in prison, those aren't hostages, those are prisoners, okay.

01:03:14.581 --> 01:03:21.244
So there's this manipulation by the media and so that's where something like what I said about kash patel.

01:03:21.244 --> 01:03:38.735
I don't know if this is true or not, but let's say for a second it was true, and if somebody can fact check it, I don't know, uh, but if it were to be true, like it doesn't, none of the good stuff gets reported because the media doesn't care about not just Trump.

01:03:38.735 --> 01:03:40.385
Okay, let's go back to Greg Easterbrook.

01:03:40.385 --> 01:03:52.155
Greg's argument, greg's whole thing regarding the media is basically the critique that we are in the best place in the history of the world.

01:03:52.155 --> 01:04:05.711
We have the best technology, we have the lowest amount of hunger, we have the best technology, we have the the lowest amount of hunger, we have the lowest amount of disease, we have the lowest, uh, amount of combat deaths in history.

01:04:05.711 --> 01:04:19.786
Um, we live in pretty I mean not even arguably pretty, pretty objectively, the greatest time in the history of the world and all we do is complain about how bad the world is.

01:04:19.786 --> 01:04:21.148
That's it.

01:04:21.809 --> 01:04:32.025
And so when you have the media who is constantly saying and don't get me wrong, fox News does it when Biden was in, and you know everybody else does it with Trump.

01:04:32.025 --> 01:04:34.472
Ok, so this is not a, this is not just a one side.

01:04:34.472 --> 01:04:40.251
Even you and I like, for all the things, we sit here, I think we still do a pretty good job.

01:04:40.251 --> 01:05:01.875
We focus on a lot of the negatives, but we're saying but we still appreciate certain things and we are happy about certain things, even right now, talking about and saying, hey look, it's amazing, you just moved from South Carolina to California and you and I can still get online and have a conversation and we do this.

01:05:01.875 --> 01:05:03.847
We don't make any money off of this.

01:05:03.847 --> 01:05:07.367
We do this because for me, my wife goes why do you do this?

01:05:10.202 --> 01:05:12.028
I told him today I told him today.

01:05:12.139 --> 01:05:14.000
I was like she said do you have anything going today?

01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:15.586
I said, yeah, I have my KJ time tonight.

01:05:15.586 --> 01:05:17.643
That's it my podcast.

01:05:17.643 --> 01:05:18.224
That's it my podcast.

01:05:18.224 --> 01:05:23.121
I get to go talk to kj, I'm talking to my friend and we happen to talk about politics.

01:05:23.121 --> 01:05:47.728
Oh, okay, so the fact that we're able to do that, I mean this, this is the type of thing if you were to say 200 years ago to people like it, and it's why the constitution cracks me up when people say the argument against the second amendment Well, the framers of the constitution didn't imagine you'd have machine guns that could fire 600 rounds in a minute.

01:05:47.728 --> 01:05:55.833
Yeah, they also didn't realize that with free speech, I could be talking to somebody in New Zealand right now, literally live, do you think?

01:05:55.833 --> 01:06:10.704
Do you think they thought about that when it came to free speech and I love the people who say that stuff so you're arguing on your computer on social media that the framers couldn't imagine guns that fired a lot of bullets all at once.

01:06:11.407 --> 01:06:19.802
Okay, that's a weird argument, I don't know.

01:06:21.083 --> 01:06:21.405
So we're.

01:06:21.405 --> 01:06:27.385
So we're in a situation with Trump or anybody really, but Trump especially there is a special, you've got to admit.

01:06:27.385 --> 01:06:30.431
There is a special vitriol for orange man.

01:06:30.431 --> 01:06:32.661
Bad Right, and it's always worth.

01:06:32.661 --> 01:06:35.882
Worse with Republicans, but oh, three of the top 10 must have been captured.

01:06:35.882 --> 01:06:38.025
And it's always worse with Republicans, but oh, three of the top 10 must have been captured.

01:06:38.025 --> 01:06:38.525
Hey, that's great.

01:06:38.525 --> 01:06:40.065
Three out of 10 is still pretty.

01:06:40.065 --> 01:06:44.027
That's pretty significant in a matter of a few weeks.

01:06:44.027 --> 01:06:47.630
So, yeah, so I don't know where that guy was coming from, but hey, thad, I appreciate the fact.

01:06:47.630 --> 01:06:48.130
Check on that.

01:06:48.130 --> 01:06:51.233
So at the same time was that reported?

01:06:51.233 --> 01:06:53.273
I hadn't heard anything.

01:06:53.273 --> 01:06:58.797
Had you heard anything about the three of the 10 since Kash Patel's come in have been captured?

01:06:58.797 --> 01:07:03.646
That's, that's pretty significant.

01:07:03.646 --> 01:07:04.610
That's pretty impressive, right?

01:07:04.650 --> 01:07:06.360
I mean, you know I'm not a fan of the FBI, so I could care less.

01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:07.786
That's beside the point.

01:07:09.922 --> 01:07:11.469
It's one of them things where it's like, oh OK.

01:07:12.820 --> 01:07:20.414
You and I are not going to have a lot of disagreements about our opinion of the FBI and or many government organizations.

01:07:20.414 --> 01:07:53.804
The irony is we both make it made our living off of a very large, if not the largest, federal agency, but at the same time, you know we were part of that, same time, you know we were part of that and you know, hey, as if you ask me, I think I did a pretty good job of of, of making my little piece of the world better, despite um being stabbed in the back multiple times, uh, by by other soldiers in your circle in my, in my inner circle, yeah, inner just like circle.

01:07:53.864 --> 01:07:56.050
I got stabbed yeah, you're like what the hell?

01:07:56.130 --> 01:07:59.420
yes yeah, I got, yeah, I got stabbed.

01:07:59.420 --> 01:08:05.842
You know, and and again, my wife doesn't want me to ever tell the story on on media because she's like it won't do you any good.

01:08:05.842 --> 01:08:08.347
I was like, well, I definitely won't do it before.

01:08:09.389 --> 01:08:14.387
Yes, not before afterwards or I I retire.

01:08:15.009 --> 01:08:17.134
Uh, maybe you know what I I think I might have to.

01:08:17.134 --> 01:08:18.564
I might have to do the sub stack thing.

01:08:18.564 --> 01:08:23.791
I might have to do it as a series, but ooh, okay, I don't know what.

01:08:23.791 --> 01:08:24.555
That is somebody.

01:08:24.555 --> 01:08:25.159
I don't know if we have a.

01:08:25.159 --> 01:08:26.002
Is that a bot?

01:08:26.002 --> 01:08:27.644
Hi, bot, we love bots.

01:08:27.644 --> 01:08:30.805
That's our first bot, though I don't think we've had a bot comment yet.

01:08:30.805 --> 01:08:32.109
Does that mean we're making the big time?

01:08:33.384 --> 01:08:38.533
we are moving up on the world we have a bot yeah, we world we have a bot.

01:08:45.659 --> 01:08:46.561
Yeah, we have Thad and a bot.

01:08:46.561 --> 01:08:49.347
But you know, realistically, when we're looking at like the parade, like again, I look at it and go it was a parade.

01:08:49.347 --> 01:08:51.471
It was the 250th parade.

01:08:51.471 --> 01:08:55.485
I remember when I went through basic training it was the 200.

01:08:55.485 --> 01:08:59.613
It would have been the 201st Army birthday.

01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:00.725
I remember doing a parade.

01:09:00.725 --> 01:09:09.900
I never once thought it was like anything special outside of hey, it's the Army's birthday and anything special, like weird special I mean.

01:09:09.900 --> 01:09:38.672
But I tell you right now I still remember that was the first time that I was in uniform and I really got it because I was standing in formation and they did the national anthem and it was the Army's birthday and I had tears going because I was now part of of that brotherhood and so I didn't watch the parade, I flipped it on YouTube and I went click, click, click, click, like literally I just clicked through the two hours just to see.

01:09:38.672 --> 01:09:40.536
I was like, oh cool, they have something.

01:09:40.536 --> 01:10:06.751
But at the same time I also remember when they did those and I was like, okay, do we really need to stand out here in Fort Leonard Wood in 90 degree heat and 70% humidity and we're all sweating our testicles off and at the meantime it's like here we have Private Johnson in a World War I outfit Blah, blah, blah, blah and you're just like who's the next one?

01:10:06.831 --> 01:10:09.273
All you're doing is looking around, going who's going to fall next?

01:10:09.273 --> 01:10:10.094
Who's the next one?

01:10:10.094 --> 01:10:10.634
Who's going to pass?

01:10:10.713 --> 01:10:13.617
out Taking bets, taking bets, yeah right right, how many.

01:10:13.936 --> 01:10:14.597
How many is good.

01:10:14.597 --> 01:10:28.581
Yeah, right, right, how many.

01:10:28.581 --> 01:10:29.362
Yeah, so you know the parade.

01:10:29.362 --> 01:10:34.349
I just I think it's funny for the parade to then become part of this no kings thing, because I don't know where this came from.

01:10:34.349 --> 01:10:35.449
I think it's bad marketing, honestly.

01:10:35.449 --> 01:10:36.631
Whoever came up with the no kings?

01:10:36.631 --> 01:10:37.032
Because it's not.

01:10:37.032 --> 01:10:38.354
It's definitely Ast astroturf.

01:10:38.354 --> 01:10:40.456
This is not a natural thing.

01:10:40.456 --> 01:10:49.426
And then here's the funniest part, and I don't know if you're going to agree with me oh, I have somebody sneaking in.

01:10:49.426 --> 01:10:50.845
I have a child behind me sneaking in.

01:10:51.444 --> 01:10:52.599
I thought that was one of my rappers.

01:10:52.599 --> 01:10:53.961
That was one of my rappers.

01:10:54.240 --> 01:11:17.438
I read today that Trump is going to start reducing the roundups based on his secretary of and I didn't read the whole article based on the recommendation of the secretary of agriculture, because the farmers have been once again the argument who's going to pick our fruit?

01:11:17.438 --> 01:11:22.692
And so now you talk about where's the slippery slope?

01:11:22.692 --> 01:11:46.609
If you're Trump and you're going to say we are serious about immigration, we are serious about closing the border, we are serious about getting people who are not supposed to be here out of the country, we're going to get rid of people who have overstayed their visas, we're going to get people who came across the border illegally and we're going to do all this, oh what?

01:11:46.609 --> 01:11:50.590
Oh, there aren't enough people picking lettuce in California.

01:11:50.590 --> 01:11:59.065
Well, except for those people in California that are picking lettuce and strawberries, you know what you can't do.

01:11:59.065 --> 01:12:01.123
That it's insane.

01:12:01.123 --> 01:12:02.627
You can't.

01:12:02.627 --> 01:12:09.533
You can't If you are going to say we are going to be a nation of laws and we are going to.

01:12:10.921 --> 01:12:18.581
We are going to take this wife who's here illegally from this husband, and now we're giving it's kind of the opposite side.

01:12:18.581 --> 01:12:21.608
We're going to give the democrats now look, here's their ad.

01:12:21.608 --> 01:12:29.841
All they have to do is say look how much the republicans hate families and don't care about what the family structure is, and they're who cares.

01:12:29.841 --> 01:12:39.349
You know she was in america since she was 14 and guadalupe had a stable home and was living in America for 20 years.

01:12:39.349 --> 01:12:44.444
She'd been married to her husband, raul, who was an American citizen.

01:12:44.444 --> 01:13:08.623
During that time they had a very difficult time with finances and both worked hard and didn't have the chance to buy an immigration, to hire an immigration lawyer, because they trusted for the american government to protect them and the trump and the republicans came in and ripped guadalupe out and sent her back to mexico, where she is now.

01:13:09.765 --> 01:13:10.826
You know, blah, blah.

01:13:10.826 --> 01:13:17.073
You know, at the same time you're writing the same thing, the same type of you know.

01:13:17.073 --> 01:13:23.948
So it's just, it's so stupid, because there are such simple ways.

01:13:23.948 --> 01:13:26.533
Again, you got you and I, tupac, saved the world.

01:13:26.533 --> 01:13:29.404
We talk about solutions, the easiest.

01:13:29.404 --> 01:13:32.171
There is such a simple way to fix this.

01:13:32.171 --> 01:13:33.873
I wrote this on Facebook.

01:13:33.873 --> 01:13:39.881
Fix this.

01:13:39.881 --> 01:13:40.702
I wrote this on Facebook.

01:13:40.721 --> 01:13:42.685
You can pass two laws that will eliminate 90% of the problems we have.

01:13:42.685 --> 01:13:48.863
Number one it is required to be a US citizen and have a valid United States citizen identification to vote.

01:13:48.863 --> 01:13:50.003
That's number one.

01:13:50.003 --> 01:13:57.894
Number two the census will only count United States citizens in their census.

01:13:57.894 --> 01:13:59.136
So what would that do?

01:13:59.136 --> 01:14:03.291
Okay, so now you just eliminate anybody who's potent.

01:14:03.581 --> 01:14:06.831
And people have said well, there's not widespread fraud, it doesn't matter, it's a perception.

01:14:06.831 --> 01:14:09.908
You want to have people vote who are citizens.

01:14:09.908 --> 01:14:11.145
You provide the IDs.

01:14:11.145 --> 01:14:14.930
You let anybody who needs one, if they can, validate it by mail.

01:14:14.930 --> 01:14:17.788
And I had somebody, I had a friend argue this on Facebook.

01:14:17.899 --> 01:14:26.234
He said well, you know, it's really tough for poor people and people who are in rural areas and people of color to get an ID like that.

01:14:26.234 --> 01:14:34.395
And I said, dude, you have a really low opinion of people who live out, rural people or black people or whoever you're saying.

01:14:34.395 --> 01:14:39.242
I trust black people to be able to go and get an ID.

01:14:39.242 --> 01:14:43.460
I think black people are just as capable as white people of going and getting an ID.

01:14:43.460 --> 01:14:45.264
Call me crazy, right?

01:14:46.324 --> 01:15:12.100
But the second thing is when you have, let's say, 5 million people come into the country, what that does is it does throw off the representation, because if you take 500,000 people and put them in New York City, well, utah needed another 30,000 citizens to get a fifth congressional seat, but because New York City had 500,000 more people, utah didn't get that extra seat.

01:15:12.100 --> 01:15:16.091
So that's a big deal, right, and I understand the whole argument.

01:15:16.091 --> 01:15:23.506
Misrepresentation, because Wyoming has more representation than New York, based on a per capita, and that's why senators, versus how I get all that stuff, right.

01:15:23.506 --> 01:15:32.725
But if you pass those two laws, and that's before you even get into migrant, temporary migrant.

01:15:32.765 --> 01:15:40.953
Look, if somebody wants to come to America and pick fruit, cool, you come across, get your card, beep, little biometric.

01:15:40.953 --> 01:15:54.328
You walk in, you work for the six months, just you, not your kids, just you and you want to send your money back at a reasonable tax rate because you know, president, what's her name in?

01:15:54.328 --> 01:15:57.233
I want to say it's Scheinbaum, but that sounds racist.

01:15:57.233 --> 01:15:59.998
The Mexican president.

01:15:59.998 --> 01:16:03.751
The Mexican president, it's a Jewish name, it's like Scheinbaum or something like that.

01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:04.842
How in the hell did they?

01:16:04.863 --> 01:16:05.345
pull that off.

01:16:05.345 --> 01:16:10.689
Yeah, she's apparently not even from Mexico, at least I read something.

01:16:10.689 --> 01:16:13.264
I don't know if that's true or not, but she's Jewish, I know that.

01:16:13.264 --> 01:16:15.650
Or well, I mean ethnically Jewish.

01:16:15.650 --> 01:16:20.551
Or she's jewish, I know that, or well, I mean ethnically jewish, or she's not a.

01:16:20.551 --> 01:16:22.677
She's not a practicing jew, but um, but like there's things that could be done again.

01:16:22.797 --> 01:16:24.261
It's kind of the the whole census thing.

01:16:24.261 --> 01:16:25.543
I I understand it.

01:16:25.543 --> 01:16:30.092
But again, constitution if if you change it.

01:16:30.353 --> 01:16:30.894
It's not there.

01:16:30.894 --> 01:16:34.827
Constitution doesn't say anything about it outside of it has to be done.

01:16:34.827 --> 01:16:37.932
It has to be done and Congress decides how it's done.

01:16:38.554 --> 01:16:40.746
Right and everybody had to be represented.

01:16:40.746 --> 01:16:44.826
Well, I think you posted 2-1, right Article 2, section 1?

01:16:46.083 --> 01:16:50.020
Yeah, but again it doesn't say how right.

01:16:50.020 --> 01:16:52.766
All it said was every free.

01:16:52.766 --> 01:17:01.684
I believe it says every free citizen, and then it went into the whole three-fifths and that's been changed, obviously, since then Not citizen every free person?

01:17:01.684 --> 01:17:03.047
Every free person.

01:17:03.109 --> 01:17:04.051
Yeah, that was the nuance.

01:17:05.721 --> 01:17:06.425
And so yeah.

01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:09.686
Scheinbaum oh, I got her name right.

01:17:09.686 --> 01:17:21.962
That's how you were able to get to that whole three-fifths thing, because every free person they was like well, you know the south has more slaves than we do.

01:17:22.002 --> 01:17:22.463
Blah, blah, blah.

01:17:22.463 --> 01:17:25.609
So that's yeah, well, and the irony of the three, the irony of the three-fifths again, was it was not to.

01:17:25.609 --> 01:17:29.644
It wasn't racist in terms of we want to degrade black people.

01:17:29.644 --> 01:17:35.605
It was we didn't want to give the south more power, overwhelming power to overwhelm the black you know to use.

01:17:35.605 --> 01:17:41.210
When you're not letting black people vote, well, why are we counting black people in the census if they can't vote?

01:17:41.210 --> 01:17:43.310
And we're going to give you more power in the South.

01:17:43.310 --> 01:17:46.286
That will actually hurt black people even worse.

01:17:47.082 --> 01:17:47.926
Is that not the same?

01:17:47.926 --> 01:17:49.988
Is that not the same argument?

01:17:51.440 --> 01:18:02.707
I don't think it is, because when you're coming from another country this is what I've said to my my sister was arguing with me about this and she said well, you know why can't people come here?

01:18:02.707 --> 01:18:15.358
If you, if and I've heard this argument from a lot of people If you lived in one of these other countries and you weren't able to get a job or make money and you knew you could go to America and you could make money and support your family, wouldn't you want to?

01:18:15.358 --> 01:18:22.481
And I said, of course, sure, but where's the line?

01:18:22.481 --> 01:18:40.921
Where's the line of it's, it's borders don't matter anymore, then, and you have to have, you have to have a procedure, you have to have rules in place, and if the rules are, you can only come in in place.

01:18:40.961 --> 01:18:43.985
And if the rules are, you can only come in, unfortunately, through a lottery or through a time and money consuming.

01:18:43.985 --> 01:18:49.555
And it's unfair that somebody can drop $5 million on a Trump gold card.

01:18:49.555 --> 01:18:52.023
Well, that's life.

01:18:52.023 --> 01:18:52.724
Life's not fair.

01:18:52.724 --> 01:19:03.621
You and I both, we both teach our kids Life's not fair, and it'd be great if historically, people I mean borders and managing populations have always been a thing Right.

01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:06.109
You've always had to go through a central checkpoint.

01:19:06.109 --> 01:19:12.172
You have to state the reason why you were there, and if you overstayed it they would round you up.

01:19:12.172 --> 01:19:17.471
It was a lot easier back when things were contained because because, hey, that house ain't supposed to be there.

01:19:17.471 --> 01:19:18.587
Who the hell lives there?

01:19:18.587 --> 01:19:19.795
You get what I'm saying.

01:19:19.795 --> 01:19:25.981
People tend to get that whole concept of oh, immigration control is bad.

01:19:25.981 --> 01:19:26.524
It's not.

01:19:27.402 --> 01:19:28.490
It's the history of the world.

01:19:28.490 --> 01:19:31.146
The theory of immigration control is great.

01:19:31.146 --> 01:19:49.546
The correlation I was making between the three-fifths rule and the immigration issue of today is they counted all of those, those black people, right, who didn't have a chance to vote, who don't have any representation, right, they're just right here for sure.

01:19:49.546 --> 01:19:51.891
And the people were profiting off of their labor.

01:19:51.891 --> 01:19:54.324
There's a lot of correlations, right.

01:19:54.324 --> 01:19:56.409
You have the immigrants who?

01:19:56.409 --> 01:20:00.182
The immigrants, are not allowed to vote, even though the perception is that they're voting.

01:20:00.182 --> 01:20:01.046
They're not.

01:20:01.046 --> 01:20:04.387
But the perception I get, the whole perception is reality thing.

01:20:04.387 --> 01:20:05.921
They're not, it's just not.

01:20:06.627 --> 01:20:07.453
It's not widespread.

01:20:07.680 --> 01:20:21.443
Hold on, it's not widespread, but it happens, it happens and it happens and, according to what's on record, it happens more on the red side than the blue side, but it happens.

01:20:21.443 --> 01:20:24.411
But again, I understand the perception of it Right.

01:20:24.411 --> 01:20:39.596
But here's the thing though those immigrants who come in when they buy from our grocery stores, when they buy from our gas stations, when they drive on our roads, when they pay the tolls, they are paying into a system that they get no benefit right.

01:20:39.596 --> 01:20:48.190
When they're out working those fields for pennies on the dollar, at a low rate, they are benefiting a system that they don't receive the benefit back from.

01:20:48.190 --> 01:20:50.663
So that's duality.

01:20:52.649 --> 01:20:57.869
Okay, because, okay, so let's say somebody is picking, let's go nice round numbers, right.

01:20:57.869 --> 01:21:09.048
Somebody's picking strawberries on the side of on the California coast for $5 an hour, right, okay, and they're driving the roads and this and that, okay, but they're not getting any benefit.

01:21:09.048 --> 01:21:27.230
The benefit is that $5, they can send $2 of that back to their family in whatever country, and that their family that $2 that they're sending back of every, okay, they're working 10 hours, so that's $20 a day, five days a week, $100.

01:21:27.230 --> 01:21:42.667
Okay, so that $100 that they're sending back to their country and to their home in Mexico or Nicaragua or whatever, allows their family in a way that they couldn't even be making $100 a week if they were there working, right, right but that's one-sided though.

01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:51.349
How much of that $100 investment into that worker that that farm or that corporation is getting, how much ROI off of that $100 is that?

01:21:51.368 --> 01:21:51.810
farm getting.

01:21:52.301 --> 01:21:59.452
Oh, no, no, oh, yeah, oh yeah, oh sure, you have states like Nebraska who are literally going broke because they don't have any migrants.

01:21:59.452 --> 01:22:00.984
We've seen it in Florida.

01:22:00.984 --> 01:22:04.372
When DeSantis did it, desantis kicked out all of his immigrants, right?

01:22:04.372 --> 01:22:12.791
Well, pretty much they did the whole roundup thing before Trump made it popular and Florida, the Florida ecosystem, almost collapsed because they lost.

01:22:12.791 --> 01:22:13.322
They lost.

01:22:13.322 --> 01:22:18.407
I think they reported 65% of their orange crops alone that they weren't able to pick.

01:22:18.407 --> 01:22:21.088
They were just sitting there because they had nobody to pick them.

01:22:21.088 --> 01:22:24.529
So when we talk about you know what's the cost now?

01:22:24.529 --> 01:22:34.730
Yeah, it cost us $100, and out of that $100, they're sending 50 of it back to wherever they're at right, but these corporations are making hand over foot off of that property.

01:22:34.730 --> 01:22:48.931
But here's the thing it's always the lowest common denominator, and that's why I said it's always it's as American, as American pie, because the rich get richer and it always comes back to blaming the low, low man, right.

01:22:49.112 --> 01:22:50.582
No, and that's low man on the totem pole.

01:22:50.903 --> 01:22:55.980
Right, and that's and that's where I'm saying there's ways to fix it Right.

01:22:55.980 --> 01:23:01.252
I don't have a problem with somebody wanting to come here saying there's ways to fix it right.

01:23:01.252 --> 01:23:04.479
I don't have a problem with somebody wanting to come here.

01:23:04.479 --> 01:23:05.199
I think we need to fix the system.

01:23:08.939 --> 01:23:10.652
I have no problem with what used to be in place, which was a card, a migrant card.

01:23:10.652 --> 01:23:11.760
You used to have people, migrant workers.

01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:14.809
Let's just keep it simple and use two countries.

01:23:14.809 --> 01:23:16.563
Let's just use Mexico and and use two countries.

01:23:16.563 --> 01:23:17.985
Let's just use mexico and in california, right.

01:23:18.627 --> 01:23:28.989
So in the spring you would have tens of thousands of migrant workers from mexico come up into california, start picking the crops.

01:23:28.989 --> 01:23:39.806
They'd be picking the lettuce, they'd be picking the avocados, they'd be picking whatever strawberries, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, through six months, so from March, april, all the way through to about September.

01:23:39.806 --> 01:23:41.412
At the end of September, what they do?

01:23:41.412 --> 01:23:42.301
They went home.

01:23:42.301 --> 01:23:43.622
Cool, there you go.

01:23:43.622 --> 01:23:53.207
I'm fine with that system If it's a card that says you come in and you're able to work, and I have that card, I have a six months.

01:23:53.207 --> 01:24:09.850
I'm going home, I'm not coming in with my family, I'm not bringing my kids up and putting them in the system If they get hurt and they need to go to the hospital, I think, yes, you still need to provide emergency care and all that stuff.

01:24:09.850 --> 01:24:13.560
Okay, but that's the difference is we've?

01:24:13.600 --> 01:24:17.251
changed Right and we've gotten, but that's not how it is now.

01:24:17.251 --> 01:24:18.541
It did work.

01:24:18.541 --> 01:24:19.604
It worked for decades.

01:24:20.225 --> 01:24:22.171
Oh, the card, oh the card.

01:24:22.211 --> 01:24:22.652
Is that what you said?

01:24:23.180 --> 01:24:26.270
Well, you go back and you look at the sharecropping system right After slavery.

01:24:26.270 --> 01:24:27.502
We tried that whole.

01:24:27.502 --> 01:24:28.265
We tried that whole.

01:24:28.265 --> 01:24:29.128
We'll come in and work.

01:24:29.779 --> 01:24:33.384
Sharecropping is very different though here's how it's not different.

01:24:33.384 --> 01:24:38.029
Right, because the arrangement will say hey, you come in, you work the fields, we'll pay you a portion of it.

01:24:38.029 --> 01:24:42.793
Whatever sands, equipment or whatever rent is right, but without the protection.

01:24:42.793 --> 01:24:44.615
And this is where you get into that slippery slope.

01:24:44.615 --> 01:24:51.667
Without the federal protection, you have organizations like the KKK, the white supremacists or whatever.

01:24:51.667 --> 01:24:56.368
As those workers were coming into work and leaving, they kept disappearing and they ended up hanging in trees.

01:24:56.368 --> 01:24:59.088
We've seen this work, we've seen this process before.

01:24:59.088 --> 01:25:00.322
That that was.

01:25:00.322 --> 01:25:02.029
Protection is important.

01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:09.970
Fair, but it wasn't in the widespread numbers that it was.

01:25:09.970 --> 01:25:11.474
It was, it was shutting down the whole.

01:25:11.474 --> 01:25:18.112
The bigger problem with the sharecroppers was basically what you had kind of with, like the mining towns, right.

01:25:18.112 --> 01:25:30.967
So you had the people that want to go in and they want to work these fields, and you would come in and say, okay, well, I'm going to work this field because you know the owner has this land and you're supposed to give me 50% of the pay.

01:25:30.967 --> 01:25:34.604
But then they'd come in and say, okay, well, where's my 50% of the crop?

01:25:34.604 --> 01:25:41.382
And they say, well, you know, yeah, we sold it for a thousand dollars, you're supposed to get 500.

01:25:41.382 --> 01:25:45.472
But well, you know, you use my tools and there's 50.

01:25:45.472 --> 01:25:51.039
And while you were living on the land, you ate this food and it became a corporate town and that was.

01:25:51.039 --> 01:25:54.282
You didn't have that with the migrants in the same way.

01:25:54.402 --> 01:25:55.841
And what the enforcement, though?

01:25:55.841 --> 01:26:06.726
What I'm saying is the enforcement is the same, because when, when the African-Americans would have their disagreements, they will know this is what the contract says, this is what the papers I had yeah, nobody Right they would use.

01:26:06.726 --> 01:26:14.131
They would use, they would use the local authorities to come in and kidnap and harm those, those African-Americans.

01:26:14.150 --> 01:26:23.814
That's what I'm saying there are yeah, the reason why, the reason why people are saying hey, hey, hey, this is a bad idea, this is a slippery slope, is because we've tried that before.

01:26:23.814 --> 01:26:27.036
You know, we tried the whole freedom papers thing right, we tried that.

01:26:27.036 --> 01:26:31.518
Hey, as long as you got your papers, you can move freely throughout the country.

01:26:33.100 --> 01:26:34.042
Make sure you have your papers.

01:26:34.203 --> 01:26:58.560
I mean, you know, I just think okay it's uncomfortable to tell you, but at the essence, at the of, the essence of it all is, it's the bottom line is none of it matters if you don't have a federal enforcement, if the federal uh, if the federal local authorities are working against you, it doesn't matter what papers you have, because when those african americans had their freedom papers, those papers would get ripped up by those same authorities and sent right back to the field.

01:27:00.202 --> 01:27:01.363
But I think we are.

01:27:01.363 --> 01:27:16.277
So it is so difficult to me to compare what happens in 2025 with what happened in 1955, right, or 1945 or 35, right.

01:27:16.277 --> 01:27:25.047
1955, right or 1945 or 35, right.

01:27:25.047 --> 01:27:30.520
And that's where I look and I say, because you have the technology, you have instant reporting, you have people coming out and, yeah, you have intimidation.

01:27:30.520 --> 01:27:36.050
But you have intimidation both ways too, like you have for every, for every boss.

01:27:36.050 --> 01:27:37.672
Um, what was his name?

01:27:37.672 --> 01:27:42.567
What was the sheriff's name in alabama that turned on the the fire hydrants?

01:27:42.567 --> 01:27:49.546
Boss, uh, oh, uh, it's not boss hog he was on the duke of the hazard.

01:27:50.631 --> 01:27:54.663
No, no, no, I can't remember his name, but I know what you're talking about.

01:27:54.684 --> 01:27:55.284
That was it okay?

01:27:55.284 --> 01:27:56.247
No, yeah, it was sheriff.

01:27:56.307 --> 01:27:58.632
And then you had the governor, who was Right, right, right, right.

01:27:59.039 --> 01:28:08.346
So what I'm saying is I think today, because you have cell phones and because you have instant communication, we're just not in the same situation.

01:28:08.346 --> 01:28:12.170
Like I wanted to compare what you said about the.

01:28:12.170 --> 01:28:21.757
You said that you compared the LA riots to the civil rights marches that were going on in the South, right?

01:28:21.859 --> 01:28:23.606
No, no, no no, no, oh, that wasn't you.

01:28:23.606 --> 01:28:26.050
No, no, those are two totally different things.

01:28:27.423 --> 01:28:31.046
Okay, somebody else was making that comparison and I apologize if it was you.

01:28:31.046 --> 01:28:36.087
Thad, I'd like to see some proof on that.

01:28:36.087 --> 01:28:41.145
Um, uh, that, I'd like to see some proof on that.

01:28:41.145 --> 01:28:45.095
But because people go disappearing both sides all the time whistleblowers against the government and etc.

01:28:45.115 --> 01:28:46.680
Bull connor boss, I said boss instead of bull.

01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:47.502
Yeah, that's what threw it off.

01:28:47.502 --> 01:28:48.783
So okay.

01:28:48.783 --> 01:29:17.073
So I've seen this argument then and I apologize that it wasn't you that what's going on and like in the marches, wasn't you that what's going on in the marches in Los Angeles is like what's going on in the South, and I think that is one of the most lazy, ridiculous comparisons, because what's going on in Los Angeles is a level of violence, a level of coordinated attacks where the civil rights was, hey, you know what?

01:29:17.073 --> 01:29:22.769
We are going to join arms and we are going to very, very specifically not be violent.

01:29:22.769 --> 01:29:31.108
We are not going to attack the police, we are not going to go against, we are going to passively resist.

01:29:31.108 --> 01:29:34.905
Where what's going on, the results were the same.

01:29:36.882 --> 01:29:38.587
So when you passively resist, here's the.

01:29:38.587 --> 01:29:40.484
Here's the thing, though People like to skim over.

01:29:40.484 --> 01:29:47.992
When you passively resist, right, because the civil rights movement led by, led by Dr King, was all about nonviolence.

01:29:47.992 --> 01:29:51.782
We're going to, we're going to exercise our right to peacefully protest, yada, yada, yada.

01:29:51.782 --> 01:29:57.181
And they got dogs sick on them, they got hoses turned on, they got beaten across the head with nightstands.

01:29:57.181 --> 01:29:58.467
The results are the same.

01:29:58.467 --> 01:30:06.289
So, whether it's not a matter of whether you're protesting peacefully or or angrily or, however, what matters is who.

01:30:06.289 --> 01:30:08.154
What is the administration going to allow?

01:30:08.154 --> 01:30:17.194
Because, because the civil rights, the civil rights movement did not change until the Kennedys were starting to push it that way.

01:30:17.194 --> 01:30:23.296
And then Lyndon Johnson got put in a foxhole, to where he was like, well, shit, if I don't do it.

01:30:23.596 --> 01:30:24.319
Yeah, I can't win.

01:30:24.319 --> 01:30:24.819
You know what I'm saying.

01:30:25.100 --> 01:30:26.646
So let me go ahead and sign it.

01:30:26.646 --> 01:30:31.552
So it's not a matter of, you know, peaceful protest or non-peaceful protest.

01:30:31.552 --> 01:30:35.710
It's a matter of what does the administration?

01:30:35.710 --> 01:30:37.212
How does that affect the administration?

01:30:38.421 --> 01:30:44.873
But you're going in and you're doing these raids in Los Angeles that everybody knows are coming.

01:30:44.873 --> 01:30:50.689
They've said look, you can report yourself, We'll give you $1,000 and a plane ticket to go home.

01:30:50.689 --> 01:30:57.092
So this is a very opportunistic way to leave the country.

01:30:57.092 --> 01:31:04.880
This is not and that I'm not saying that people don't die and get killed.

01:31:04.880 --> 01:31:13.154
I'm curious, like what was the you're saying a cop killed these two guys Shocking.

01:31:13.154 --> 01:31:19.880
There are dirty cops out there who knew guys.

01:31:19.880 --> 01:31:20.060
Shocking.

01:31:20.060 --> 01:31:20.862
There are dirty cops out there who knew.

01:31:20.862 --> 01:31:37.807
But you know in the LA, what's going on in LA is you have these guys going out and they're breaking up the bullards, so they have rocks to throw at the police and they are going in and they are surrounding and breaking, Like one of the things one of my friends said oh, it's about to get real, it's about to get real in LA.

01:31:38.930 --> 01:31:57.362
But then I read a really interesting article that I thought was really insightful Because it said the protesters and the local police are basically on the same side, taking their cues from the same groups.

01:31:57.362 --> 01:32:09.631
So the higher up, let's say the mayor of Los Angeles, who is a communist like she's an actual communist she is telling the police look, we need to show that we're in charge of our city.

01:32:09.631 --> 01:32:11.474
Just not too hard.

01:32:11.474 --> 01:32:15.596
But we support the protesters, Just don't hurt the cops.

01:32:15.596 --> 01:32:23.182
So there's this kind of balance between the violence of the LAPD and violence of the protesters.

01:32:23.182 --> 01:32:37.073
And hey, as long as nobody, as long as nobody really gets out of hand, we can make this, we can make this, we can make this happen that's ultimately how protests are supposed to work.

01:32:37.493 --> 01:32:51.582
It's like, hey, I want to, I want to provide, I want to protect your, your, your, you know your constitutional right yes, protest oh sure, same time I, as the chief administrator of the city, I'm letting the police force know.

01:32:51.582 --> 01:32:57.354
Hey, man, you have I got your back, do what you have to do what you have to do, but use restraint.

01:32:57.354 --> 01:32:59.664
Use our rule, if you will.

01:32:59.765 --> 01:33:00.247
Yes, so yeah.

01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:06.152
So in that regard, administratively, that's the right way to do it.

01:33:07.621 --> 01:33:08.725
But here's the wild card.

01:33:08.725 --> 01:33:13.792
Now you have Trump and the federal coming in, going we're enforcing the law, we're going to do it.

01:33:13.792 --> 01:33:18.118
Hey, we've been saying we're going to do it.

01:33:24.020 --> 01:33:24.480
That was bullshit.

01:33:24.480 --> 01:33:25.061
That was absolute bullshit.

01:33:25.061 --> 01:33:25.703
I I don't think it was.

01:33:25.703 --> 01:33:35.769
What's funny about this is I can't tell you how many memes I've seen that basic and I'm all about hey, you want to go protest as long as there's no destruction, and and again, as a libertarian.

01:33:35.769 --> 01:33:41.484
As a libertarian, your rights stop where mine begin, right.

01:33:41.945 --> 01:33:48.881
Did you see that video of the, the two white people who were blocking traffic, and the what?

01:33:48.881 --> 01:33:54.171
And the black moms like, hey, I need to get to work, I need to provide?

01:33:54.171 --> 01:33:55.011
And they start laughing.

01:33:55.011 --> 01:33:57.175
You just, you want to go to work.

01:33:57.175 --> 01:34:01.488
And it's like you, absolute idiots.

01:34:01.488 --> 01:34:08.127
You're these two leftist white people and you're stopping a person of color who wants to go provide for their family.

01:34:08.127 --> 01:34:09.792
Do you realize how stupid this looks?

01:34:09.792 --> 01:34:15.828
Look, I think if you block a freeway I'm with DeSantis you block a freeway, you get run over.

01:34:15.828 --> 01:34:21.695
I think if you're a motorist, you should be able to drive down the street.

01:34:21.695 --> 01:34:26.011
You drive down the street and somebody jumps in front of your car and you hit them.

01:34:26.011 --> 01:34:28.846
In fact, the person who gets hit.

01:34:28.846 --> 01:34:31.313
Your insurance should cover my car damage.

01:34:32.162 --> 01:34:37.287
If you are out protesting without the proper permits and that's the nuance, right I don't even care.

01:34:37.346 --> 01:34:41.735
Permits Go down, stay on the sidewalk and so be it.

01:34:41.735 --> 01:34:42.239
No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:44.006
Do you think you need a permit?

01:34:44.006 --> 01:34:46.609
Do you think you should need a permit to protest?

01:34:47.100 --> 01:34:48.606
I don't think you need a permit to protest.

01:34:48.739 --> 01:35:03.905
I also don't think you need a permit to hunt, fish or drive or anything like that Agreed but laws are what they are, and if you register your protest, if you register your protest and say, hey, we are protesting, we will be in this street during these hours, this is the way we're protesting.

01:35:03.905 --> 01:35:10.108
And a vehicle comes down and harms you, then I, at that point, the protesters are in the right of way.

01:35:10.108 --> 01:35:23.328
But if you just decide to be a bunch of dummies who decide to get on the freeway on a Tuesday and protest because you're pissed off, then the you know, then the person driving the vehicle has every right to tell you to get the hell off the street because you're not supposed to be there.

01:35:23.328 --> 01:35:26.043
Right, there's a way that both can happen.

01:35:26.545 --> 01:35:33.505
Yeah, you know, I'm saying there's, there's not a either or there's a common sense way, like a lot of people like to go back and they like to pick and choose what to do in the 60s.

01:35:33.505 --> 01:35:44.096
One thing that the marchers and the organizers of the 1960s civil rights movement was prolific at is using the law to their advantage, right.

01:35:44.096 --> 01:35:53.805
So when those policemen would stop them from marching on the streets, they were violating the law.

01:35:53.805 --> 01:36:01.470
When those civilians were counter, were counter protesting and attacking those protesters from the 1960s, they were violating the law.

01:36:01.470 --> 01:36:13.186
What happens now is you got a bunch of idiots who are out on the street disorganized and just because they're in their feelings, they want to decide, they want to go sit in front of traffic and feel that they got it right away and they're wrong.

01:36:13.186 --> 01:36:15.451
So there's two ways that can be done.

01:36:15.451 --> 01:36:22.242
No, no, there aren't proper permits to walk on the street.

01:36:22.242 --> 01:36:23.024
You're absolutely right.

01:36:23.024 --> 01:36:27.073
The permit is to have a gathering or use a march.

01:36:27.073 --> 01:36:29.485
It's no different than if you wanted to go do a parade.

01:36:29.485 --> 01:36:36.407
If you got a permit to do a parade, you will be marching down the street, all right.

01:36:36.407 --> 01:36:51.206
So I guess my biggest gripe with those guys in LA is not necessarily the gripe in LA, because for the most part it's BLM all over again.

01:36:51.305 --> 01:37:00.734
You have those agitators who get in and their sole purpose, regardless who hired them, their sole purpose is to cause disruption within a organization.

01:37:00.734 --> 01:37:03.146
We've we've seen that time and time again.

01:37:03.146 --> 01:37:03.989
It's been proven.

01:37:03.989 --> 01:37:21.069
You know, the government has been known for the last 60, 70 years, since COINTELPRO, to insert agitators into peaceful organizations for the simple right to make it look like you know those guys are bad, you good, yeah, keep going.

01:37:21.069 --> 01:37:29.502
So, yeah, so it would not surprise me, you know, if those agitators were in, there, were in there, right.

01:37:29.983 --> 01:37:31.889
Prime example, there were some veterans.

01:37:31.889 --> 01:37:33.152
I don't know if you got a chance to see it.

01:37:33.152 --> 01:37:41.006
There were veterans who broke the barricades at one of the government buildings in Washington DC this week.

01:37:41.006 --> 01:37:52.082
And the difference between what they did and what the January 6th's did is they did a sit-in protest on the Capitol steps, didn't go in, didn't do anything.

01:37:52.082 --> 01:38:00.307
They did a sit-in Veterans, did a sit-in on the Capitol steps to protest the use of veterans in the parade.

01:38:00.307 --> 01:38:02.564
Do I agree with it?

01:38:02.564 --> 01:38:05.768
No, but it was the right way to do it.

01:38:05.768 --> 01:38:11.100
So it was a coordinated protest across the country.

01:38:11.100 --> 01:38:17.323
And here's the difference it was a protest across the country, but for the mass, for the.

01:38:18.887 --> 01:38:29.000
The problem with, with with the protest and how things are running now is there's no organization, right, you, you can gather and you can have a protest if you decide to stay on the sidewalk.

01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:30.885
But what you cannot do?

01:38:30.885 --> 01:38:34.313
You cannot impede the flow of traffic if you do not have the permit.

01:38:34.313 --> 01:38:38.024
Impede the flow of traffic if you do not have the permit.

01:38:38.024 --> 01:38:38.565
That's the difference.

01:38:38.565 --> 01:38:43.704
If you decide to stay on the sidewalks and you line every sidewalk in America with signs or whatever, you are well within your constitutional right.

01:38:43.704 --> 01:38:50.929
The minute you step in a public street and impede the traffic or impede the right of way of another civilian, you are in default.

01:38:51.250 --> 01:38:55.225
Yeah Right, and that's you don't have the permit, and that's where Liberty, yeah.

01:38:55.225 --> 01:39:00.823
And that's where Liberty saying there aren't permits to allow you to stop traffic, yeah, and so.

01:39:00.823 --> 01:39:35.948
And that's where, again, even permits and, like you said, laws are laws, me personally I think it's kind of I know it's constitutional because the Supreme Court has said constitutional, ok I think it's unconstitutional when they set up these locations and say, hey, the president's going to be speaking here, so here's the speech area, you can go over here and you can protest however you want.

01:39:35.948 --> 01:39:36.831
Want in this area.

01:39:36.831 --> 01:39:38.673
I don't agree with that.

01:39:38.673 --> 01:39:47.784
I personally think that, again, if, if it's in america, as long as you're not impeding somebody else's rights, right, you should be able to protest.

01:39:47.784 --> 01:39:58.514
Now, again, there are limitations to that because, like, if you have who's matt walsh, let's say Matt Walsh is one of those conservative dudes, right.

01:39:58.514 --> 01:40:01.609
If Matt Walsh gets invited, yeah.

01:40:01.609 --> 01:40:13.850
If Matt Walsh gets invited to the university of Michigan and he has these protesters popping up during his his talk and shouting down so he can't have his interactions, yeah.

01:40:13.911 --> 01:40:14.412
Kick them out.

01:40:16.024 --> 01:40:16.726
That is not.

01:40:16.726 --> 01:40:19.158
That is not okay form of protesting.

01:40:19.158 --> 01:40:20.521
You want to be outside?

01:40:20.521 --> 01:40:21.864
Okay, hey, you know what?

01:40:21.864 --> 01:40:23.127
Go outside the building, do all that.

01:40:23.127 --> 01:40:26.726
But he and his team arranged with the university.

01:40:26.726 --> 01:40:29.078
They were invited there, they were brought on.

01:40:29.158 --> 01:40:37.569
It's kind of like when Crowder goes on, he gets the permits and he goes on to the University of Texas and he does my change of mind thing and you have people out there shouting them down.

01:40:37.569 --> 01:40:39.024
Well, ok, guess what?

01:40:39.024 --> 01:40:41.828
They're in a public spot, so are you?

01:40:41.828 --> 01:40:44.306
So they can yell at Crowder if they want to.

01:40:44.306 --> 01:40:46.823
Sorry, you want to be in somewhere.

01:40:46.823 --> 01:40:47.765
That's a little more.

01:40:47.765 --> 01:40:48.748
You like that?

01:40:48.748 --> 01:40:51.143
Yes, of course, that is, that is one of my favorite.

01:40:51.143 --> 01:40:58.854
So so, that's the thing is, when we're talking about these protests, I again I'm fine.

01:40:58.854 --> 01:41:00.162
I have stopped with.

01:41:00.162 --> 01:41:04.220
I have stopped and talked to people running protests before, just to kind of.

01:41:04.220 --> 01:41:06.108
There've been some that I didn't know what they were.

01:41:06.108 --> 01:41:07.506
It's like, hey, dude, what are you protesting?

01:41:07.506 --> 01:41:11.390
Oh, we're striking against the AT&T because they're not giving us a fair wage.

01:41:11.390 --> 01:41:15.800
I'm like, oh, okay, cool, leave, I've had ones.

01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:17.841
I had a guy.

01:41:17.900 --> 01:41:25.061
Now, this wasn't a protest, but I went to a BYU-TCU game Texas Christian University, up in Dallas.

01:41:25.061 --> 01:41:29.523
It was a football game, and this kid I was probably gosh.

01:41:29.523 --> 01:41:30.184
When were we there?

01:41:30.184 --> 01:41:39.310
That would have been 05, somewhere between 05 and 08, because that's when I was in station at that part of Texas.

01:41:39.310 --> 01:41:48.717
So we went up to the game and this guy had a sign that said um, joseph Smith is still a liar something like that, very inflammatory towards my religion.

01:41:49.765 --> 01:41:53.555
And I walked up to him and his friends and I took out my military ID card.

01:41:53.555 --> 01:42:14.537
I said hey, guys, I just want to let you know I'm in the military and I'm showing you this because I will absolutely defend your right to have that sign that said you, as his friends, should not let him make such an asshole of himself, because this makes him look like an absolute bigot towards me and my religion.

01:42:14.537 --> 01:42:17.810
You have the right to do it, but you shouldn't.

01:42:17.810 --> 01:42:20.877
That's all I said, and I walked away.

01:42:20.877 --> 01:42:25.927
You know I shared what I thought.

01:42:25.927 --> 01:42:26.228
I now, now you.

01:42:26.228 --> 01:42:37.287
We are now, though, in a we're now in an environment that it would now be hey, turn on your phone, watch this.

01:42:37.287 --> 01:42:47.592
And I walked over to that guy and said hey, that sign that's a total load of crap you shouldn't have and rip it away from it.

01:42:47.592 --> 01:42:53.275
We're getting, and now we're going to try to get, we're going to try to make that to go viral instead of having no, no.

01:42:53.315 --> 01:42:58.962
Again you could argue and say well, you know, chaplain, you didn't need to go over and even say that in the first place.

01:42:58.962 --> 01:42:59.947
It's like you're right.

01:42:59.947 --> 01:43:04.056
But you know, at the same time I'm you didn't need to go over and even say that in the first place.

01:43:04.056 --> 01:43:04.618
It's like you're right.

01:43:04.618 --> 01:43:07.225
But you know, at the same time I'm feeling like I need to go defend my faith and say that.

01:43:07.225 --> 01:43:16.315
You know, a little plug here this Friday we teased this a couple weeks ago I'm going to be debating Andrew Wilson.

01:43:16.315 --> 01:43:20.155
You may know Andrew Wilson from the Whatever podcast.

01:43:20.155 --> 01:43:26.270
He's the guy who is kind of always off and he's got the cigarette and he's always being really snarky to the girls.

01:43:26.270 --> 01:43:28.059
Oh, you're just Annie.

01:43:28.059 --> 01:43:29.935
Oh wait, you think you're a 10.

01:43:29.935 --> 01:43:31.996
Ah, you know that guy, so it's pretty funny.

01:43:31.996 --> 01:43:33.608
His podcast is Crucible.

01:43:33.608 --> 01:43:36.904
I'm going to be debating him and here's this Friday.

01:43:36.904 --> 01:43:41.752
I think that's going to pop up yeah, it just popped up.

01:43:42.273 --> 01:43:43.948
Yeah, and so we'll go show.

01:43:43.948 --> 01:43:45.715
So there it goes.

01:43:45.715 --> 01:43:57.860
So this Friday and I think I'm going to be it's going to be moderated by a woman named Sarah the Raging Tomato.

01:43:57.860 --> 01:44:04.613
That's her website, and we are going to broadcast it here at the same time.

01:44:04.673 --> 01:44:05.515
So if you, want to watch that?

01:44:05.515 --> 01:44:06.317
Yes, we're going to simulcast it.

01:44:06.618 --> 01:44:07.279
Simulcast it.

01:44:07.279 --> 01:44:11.775
Yeah, so this is the type of thing I'm talking about.

01:44:11.775 --> 01:44:16.476
Like, again, you have the right to say what you want to say.

01:44:16.476 --> 01:44:25.306
Now, there are limits in terms of you can't make threats, you can't yell a movie in a crowded firehouse, things like that.

01:44:25.306 --> 01:44:30.555
There you go.

01:44:30.555 --> 01:44:32.158
That's an old Steve Martin joke.

01:44:32.158 --> 01:44:34.567
That joke's from the 70s, that's how old that joke is.

01:44:34.567 --> 01:44:36.951
Absolutely stolen from Steve Martin.

01:44:38.753 --> 01:44:45.427
But but you know, like you and I have talked about this, should I have the right to say the N word?

01:44:45.427 --> 01:44:54.466
Yes, now, now, should I expect certain consequences if I use the N word in certain contexts?

01:44:54.466 --> 01:44:59.989
Yes, as well, you and I have, you and I a couple of years ago, well, you and I have, you and I.

01:44:59.989 --> 01:45:09.396
A couple of years ago, we were talking, I told you a story about when I was eight years old and using the N-word, and I said hey, you know, if I tell this story, what do you think?

01:45:09.396 --> 01:45:10.198
And you said you know what?

01:45:10.198 --> 01:45:16.681
I'm going to give you a pass too, because it adds, it makes the story much more visceral.

01:45:16.681 --> 01:45:30.430
Yeah, and so in that situation, I used the N-wordword only because kj, as a representative of all black people in this country, as we've talked about previously said that I should be able to right, but then you see these videos like.

01:45:30.530 --> 01:45:37.530
One of my favorite videos is that, uh, the video where the white guy keeps saying to the you know, hey, you and, and, and, and and.

01:45:37.530 --> 01:45:39.654
It's in the convenience store and the guy hits him with the.

01:45:39.654 --> 01:45:40.895
What is it the crazy?

01:45:40.895 --> 01:45:43.180
The iced tea, the iced tea.

01:45:44.164 --> 01:46:00.631
Boom and I sit there and I go okay, by law the black guy probably should be arrested for assault, but by common sense that white dude had it coming.

01:46:00.631 --> 01:46:04.256
That's, yeah, so Twisted.

01:46:04.296 --> 01:46:04.475
Tea.

01:46:04.475 --> 01:46:05.296
Yeah, there you go.

01:46:06.158 --> 01:46:13.016
I'm glad Thad's on tonight because we keep it in roadblocks and Thad's, like I got you, he's working for Deuce.

01:46:13.016 --> 01:46:15.131
I got to throw him a little Moscow and the Hudson.

01:46:15.131 --> 01:46:15.472
Two cents.

01:46:15.472 --> 01:46:22.475
Tell you what Thad we are going to give you every penny we earn from today's broadcast.

01:46:22.475 --> 01:46:26.051
You can look for about two cents coming to your Venmo.

01:46:26.051 --> 01:46:33.292
But let's see, what about the contest of singing hip hop?

01:46:33.292 --> 01:46:34.015
I'll bring it back up.

01:46:36.186 --> 01:46:58.637
Oh argument Military I had a group of soldiers who was they were coming into for a whole nother conversation and we were, we were talking and because I'm a chaplain and a lot of the people I dealt with were in trouble because of sharp and EO.

01:46:58.637 --> 01:47:01.967
Sharp is sexual harassment, rape prevention, eo is equal opportunity, right.

01:47:01.967 --> 01:47:22.484
And so I was saying, look, if you guys need to go report somebody for Sharpen EO, you should absolutely do it, but let's make sure that you're not weaponizing these things, okay, because if you get hit with an investigation in AIT, I know kids that were there for over a year for an investigation on things that were stupid, right.

01:47:22.484 --> 01:47:34.507
And I said, for example, and this is right to the point, let's say I call KJ, the N-word Is that an EO complaint.

01:47:34.507 --> 01:47:35.851
Raise your hand if.

01:47:35.851 --> 01:47:40.409
And everybody's hands went up, right, kj is an NCO in the front row, you know.

01:47:40.409 --> 01:47:41.112
And I said okay.

01:47:41.112 --> 01:47:49.979
So what about if I'm in my barracks room and you're walking by and you hear me say the N-word is that an EO complaint?

01:47:49.979 --> 01:47:56.435
And they kind of about half the hands kind of went up and yeah, I said okay.

01:47:56.936 --> 01:48:03.518
So let's say, now you come into my room and I'm at my desk and I have my headphones on and I'm just singing along with Jay-Z.

01:48:03.518 --> 01:48:07.292
Is that an EO complaint?

01:48:07.292 --> 01:48:11.715
And everybody kind of went, oh no, probably not.

01:48:11.715 --> 01:48:14.613
I said okay, and then this is what got me in trouble.

01:48:14.613 --> 01:48:16.247
This is what got.

01:48:16.247 --> 01:48:21.952
At least part of the complaint was I said, but let's be real, I would probably be listening to Eminem.

01:48:21.952 --> 01:48:24.653
So somebody actually twisted that.

01:48:24.653 --> 01:48:26.912
Somebody actually twisted that and went.

01:48:26.912 --> 01:48:39.354
The NCO actually went and complained to my command that I had said this, which the whole, the whole thing I was telling these guys was keep it at the lowest level, like if you had a problem with what I said, come and talk to me.

01:48:39.354 --> 01:48:42.851
If you have a problem with another soldier, go and talk to them.

01:48:43.372 --> 01:49:08.139
So when you're talking about these things, that I am old enough that the first rappers that I got into were NWA, because my best friend in the late eighties, uh, his dad, had brought him up from Compton.

01:49:08.139 --> 01:49:17.408
His dad, my buddy Eric, uh wanted, his dad, douglas, wanted to get them out of LA with all the, all the stuff that was going on in big, you know, a lot of the gangs and the drugs.

01:49:17.408 --> 01:49:18.931
So he brought them up to Salt Lake.

01:49:18.931 --> 01:49:20.255
He was in my school.

01:49:20.255 --> 01:49:25.773
We became very, very good friends and I had the car and he didn't, so we'd drive around and he would pop in NWA.

01:49:26.305 --> 01:49:27.010
I can sing.

01:49:27.010 --> 01:49:32.011
I'm trying to remember what it was from.

01:49:32.011 --> 01:49:34.027
America's Most Wanted, ice Cube's.

01:49:34.027 --> 01:49:37.650
America's Most Wanted, the nursery rhyme, the ghetto nursery rhyme.

01:49:37.650 --> 01:49:40.127
Boys and girls, they all love me.

01:49:40.127 --> 01:49:45.213
Come sit on the lap of Icy and let me tell you a story too, about a punk nigga named Jack.

01:49:45.213 --> 01:49:46.636
Wasn't that nimble, wasn't that Jack?

01:49:46.636 --> 01:49:58.551
Anyway, I think I might have actually missed some which were I was listening to NWA.

01:49:58.551 --> 01:50:03.805
I'm glad, yeah, so that was who I used to listen.

01:50:03.805 --> 01:50:05.511
I'm not a big fan of rap now.

01:50:05.511 --> 01:50:07.332
I do like some Eminem here and there.

01:50:07.332 --> 01:50:08.127
But I tell you what.

01:50:08.127 --> 01:50:10.935
The rappers I like are the ones that I can understand what they're saying.

01:50:10.935 --> 01:50:21.235
So most of the rappers if I can't understand what they're saying, like Snoop, hey, it's real easy to listen to Snoop because you hear exactly what he's saying.

01:50:21.235 --> 01:50:21.877
He's very mellow.

01:50:21.877 --> 01:50:25.934
But again back to the N-word.

01:50:25.934 --> 01:50:30.470
Don't use the N-word, boys and girls, if you don't want to get punched in the mouth.

01:50:34.859 --> 01:50:40.416
Yeah, man, yeah, we can't sing NWA on the show.

01:50:41.966 --> 01:50:43.652
Well, not certain parts of it at least.

01:50:44.054 --> 01:50:56.979
Yeah, so I mean, it's all context matters, right, as America continues to intertwine and our cultures continue to be you know, one of many right Diversified.

01:50:56.979 --> 01:50:58.490
It's a melting pot for a reason, right?

01:50:58.490 --> 01:51:12.211
Yeah, those words don't hold the weight in certain contexts, like you still have some traditionalists who like to throw that n-word around as an offensive in an offensive manner.

01:51:12.270 --> 01:51:17.886
Yeah, it is, yeah, yeah hard are yeah hard are people talk to you, talk to most.

01:51:17.886 --> 01:51:31.916
You talk to most gen alphas right now it it's so ingrained in music and hip hop it's like, oh you know, and this and that, and I'm like bro, I'm like bro, I'm like come here, oh, the middle school I was in.

01:51:32.645 --> 01:51:36.876
So for the last week I finally got approval to get into the school as part of the retirement plan.

01:51:36.876 --> 01:51:37.677
I was in a middle school.

01:51:37.677 --> 01:51:40.619
They ended up putting me just as a hall monitor.

01:51:40.619 --> 01:51:41.600
The retirement plan.

01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:42.100
I was in a middle school.

01:51:42.100 --> 01:51:43.641
At home, they ended up putting me just as a hall monitor.

01:51:43.641 --> 01:51:47.243
Oh my gosh, the language of these.

01:51:47.243 --> 01:51:48.844
And I was in the sixth grade.

01:51:48.844 --> 01:51:50.506
The eighth graders weren't too bad.

01:51:51.247 --> 01:52:11.225
The sixth graders were the ones who were sweat some of the stuff they were saying now and and that back me up as a writer the the beauty, the reason why I got into writing is because I love language and the way language transforms right when you hear these gen a's use that word.

01:52:12.268 --> 01:52:18.328
They use it in it as a term of brotherhood, like for them it's like oh, you know my, my soul is so my soul.

01:52:18.328 --> 01:52:20.413
So they never they.

01:52:20.413 --> 01:52:24.043
It never clicked in their mind that this was a negative connotation.

01:52:24.043 --> 01:52:26.011
You know what I'm saying White, black, blue, purple.

01:52:26.011 --> 01:52:29.385
If you're in Gen A, you know what I'm saying.

01:52:29.385 --> 01:52:39.935
And I grow up oh, it's all man, you know that's my, you know that's my, and you'd be like bro, hey, come on, young man, I hear what you're saying and I know what you're saying, but let me, let me talk to you.

01:52:39.935 --> 01:52:42.059
You know what I'm saying, but that word has evolved.

01:52:42.059 --> 01:52:48.725
But what you're going to have is you're going to have, and that's why.

01:52:48.725 --> 01:52:49.346
That's why racism is so fickle.

01:52:49.346 --> 01:52:54.505
Right, because the English language is evolving to a point to where that word doesn't mean what you think it is Right.

01:52:54.505 --> 01:52:59.835
So, people in our generation, when we hear that N-word, it is still inherently offensive.

01:53:00.395 --> 01:53:11.088
It's hard R almost all the time yeah, the reaction is hard R, but for Gen Alpha it's like yo bro, that's my brother.

01:53:11.349 --> 01:53:12.391
That's my boy.

01:53:12.893 --> 01:53:18.073
That's my partner, that's my Him and I are the same, we both n-words.

01:53:18.073 --> 01:53:23.944
You'd be like you should probably go out and let your grand, let him, teach you a little something.

01:53:23.944 --> 01:53:24.667
You know what I'm saying.

01:53:24.667 --> 01:53:26.774
But that's why I love the beauty of the language.

01:53:26.774 --> 01:53:31.966
And I think, in a generation or two, that word as we continue to come, and that's that's.

01:53:31.966 --> 01:53:33.627
That's where we have that.

01:53:33.627 --> 01:53:41.134
That's where we have that, that set of idealists who want to hold on to those traditional values.

01:53:41.134 --> 01:53:42.854
Right, they want to be able to use.

01:53:42.854 --> 01:53:43.395
You know what I'm saying.

01:53:43.395 --> 01:53:45.198
They want to be able to say, okay, well, that's a.

01:53:45.198 --> 01:53:47.539
You know that's N-word, you know it.

01:53:47.539 --> 01:53:48.119
I give you.

01:53:48.119 --> 01:53:56.689
I give you another example right, when, the last time have you ever heard somebody call a white person honky or something like that?

01:53:56.710 --> 01:54:06.853
Right, it, it, it, culturally, it died off, you know what I'm saying and eventually the N word will do the same With Gen.

01:54:06.872 --> 01:54:06.893
A.

01:54:06.893 --> 01:54:08.219
When Gen A starts having kids, they're going to be.

01:54:08.238 --> 01:54:09.704
So here's my question, Liberty.

01:54:11.606 --> 01:54:12.408
Why would you want to say it?

01:54:12.408 --> 01:54:14.310
Well, he's just saying that he's just singing a song.

01:54:15.252 --> 01:54:20.159
Yeah, if he was singing a song and in context, then you know what I'm saying.

01:54:22.324 --> 01:54:22.444
Well.

01:54:22.826 --> 01:54:22.985
KJ.

01:54:22.985 --> 01:54:26.631
Let me Prime example if you were in a church, right, if you were in a church, we all curse.

01:54:26.631 --> 01:54:28.615
Oh yeah, if you were in a church, right.

01:54:29.157 --> 01:54:30.519
I think I know where we're going to go.

01:54:36.545 --> 01:54:38.814
Do you think the parishioners in that church will be okay with me getting on the mic?

01:54:38.814 --> 01:54:41.002
I want to give glory to MNF and God, and you know that SOP.

01:54:41.002 --> 01:54:42.668
Yeah yeah, jesus, you know what I'm saying.

01:54:42.668 --> 01:54:45.951
Context matters, jesus is the effing best.

01:54:45.951 --> 01:54:47.255
You get what I'm saying.

01:54:47.255 --> 01:54:50.646
So, yes, yeah, some things.

01:54:50.646 --> 01:54:53.994
You can say what you want to say but you got to understand.

01:54:54.837 --> 01:55:20.176
Right, but I think that in this situation that Libby is pointing out, I think that in this situation that Liberty is pointing out, it's kind of like a couple of years ago there was a very similar thing, where one of the black rappers pulled up a kid out of the audience and was having them sing along and then, when the kids sang the words along, the whole crowd started booing him and the rapper turned on him like how dare you?

01:55:20.176 --> 01:55:25.275
It was like you pulled this white kid out of the crowd to start singing along with you.

01:55:25.296 --> 01:55:31.756
What do you expect, Again, I mean yeah, I mean again I get pulled up to sing with Ice Cube.

01:55:31.756 --> 01:55:34.413
I'm self-censoring regardless.

01:55:35.284 --> 01:55:36.189
You have to have that.

01:55:36.189 --> 01:55:37.546
You have to have that, but like you.

01:55:37.726 --> 01:55:50.626
But what you just said, though, jene, that's very different, though Right, so you have.

01:55:50.626 --> 01:55:51.067
So there are some.

01:55:51.067 --> 01:56:03.452
I remember the story back in the day when Marion Barry was the was the mayor of of Washington the comeback kid himself but one of his aides got fired because they were talking about the budget, right, and he said you know, the governor is very niggardly when it comes to the budget and he's very aware the dude had to resign.

01:56:03.452 --> 01:56:11.314
The word niggardly means to be miserly or carefully, to deal carefully with money niggardly.

01:56:11.314 --> 01:56:31.431
It has nothing to do with the n-word of derogatory fame, and that's where, like now, I don't think you would necessarily get that today, but at the same time, you know, like Liberty points out, you have a kid that could potentially lose a scholarship for saying the N-word.

01:56:32.345 --> 01:56:33.229
But if he's singing?

01:56:33.229 --> 01:56:36.726
Was that word necessary in that press conference?

01:56:36.726 --> 01:56:40.273
Was the word niggerly necessary in that press?

01:56:41.335 --> 01:56:41.719
conference.

01:56:41.719 --> 01:56:42.886
But what did you just say?

01:56:43.087 --> 01:57:00.496
you just said the words matter, right, he's using the right word right word, wrong audience yeah, I guess, but I mean, if you're if you're in a corporate environment right, if you're in a corporate environment, right and you go in there liberty's arguing, liberty's arguing.

01:57:00.555 --> 01:57:33.970
Drop of, uh, drop of blood, that's, that's also, that's civil war level of arguments it's one of those things, right, you know, I mean I, I appreciate that liberty I I I appreciate what you're, what you wrote there yeah, I mean, it truly is right word, wrong audience right, yeah you, you, if, if I am on the campus of an hbcu, you know, I'm saying, and I am a caucasian guy, yeah no matter how much I am ingrained into the society or the system.

01:57:34.632 --> 01:57:41.496
I have to be aware of my surroundings and understand that not everybody is accepting, you know what I'm.

01:57:41.515 --> 01:57:51.515
Yeah, but this guy was talking in a budget meeting to reporters who thought I'm going to use the proper word here when it comes to governmental funds.

01:57:52.225 --> 01:57:54.333
Yeah, right word, wrong audience.

01:57:54.965 --> 01:57:59.984
Well, that means there's no ever right audience for that word, then Is that the argument?

01:58:00.847 --> 01:58:01.670
Well, I mean there's.

01:58:01.670 --> 01:58:05.872
Well, I mean it's up to you, it really is, it's, it's.

01:58:05.872 --> 01:58:07.457
You have to be aware that.

01:58:07.457 --> 01:58:11.449
You have to be aware that I can use the exact right word, right for sure.

01:58:11.871 --> 01:58:16.061
So it can just say, right, oh, go with, it, go with it.

01:58:16.203 --> 01:58:21.074
Oh, if a female exchanges money for for sex, right, if a few.

01:58:21.074 --> 01:58:24.363
If, if a man exchanges money with a female for sex, right.

01:58:24.363 --> 01:58:29.576
We have so many words that we can use for that, right?

01:58:29.576 --> 01:58:36.413
Yes, in context, we're not allowed to use those words in certain spaces, right?

01:58:37.595 --> 01:58:44.716
Such as Like what you can't use prostitute, what in church it's in the Bible.

01:58:45.664 --> 01:58:50.145
Yeah, of course it's in the Bible, but that doesn't mean that doesn't mean you could be up there talking about yeah.

01:58:50.145 --> 01:58:53.234
So I was with a prostitute last night and we had a great time.

01:58:54.045 --> 01:58:57.911
Oh, so if you're in church, so if you're in church and you say I was with the lady of the night.

01:58:57.911 --> 01:58:58.733
That's going to go over better.

01:58:58.733 --> 01:58:59.252
It's not what I'm saying.

01:58:59.273 --> 01:59:00.515
A lady of the night that's going to go over better.

01:59:00.515 --> 01:59:03.019
What I'm saying is the right word, wrong audience.

01:59:06.185 --> 01:59:08.185
I don't think it's ever the right time to be announcing that you were with a prostitute in church.

01:59:08.826 --> 01:59:09.550
I don't know where you.

01:59:09.550 --> 01:59:12.875
It's the right word, wrong audience.

01:59:12.895 --> 01:59:15.832
There's nothing wrong with it, but it's never the right audience to be saying that.

01:59:16.765 --> 01:59:20.731
Well, again, when is the right time to use the word in with a hard R?

01:59:20.731 --> 01:59:21.935
When is the right?

01:59:21.956 --> 01:59:31.801
time I do have a question for this, then Okay, this is a very legitimate question that I would like answered.

01:59:31.801 --> 01:59:34.890
Yeah, you're in a high school history class.

01:59:35.292 --> 01:59:37.510
Yeah, oh, that's a great question.

01:59:37.930 --> 01:59:44.137
Great question, okay, and you are quoting Malcolm X.

01:59:44.137 --> 01:59:51.037
Do you, as a white school teacher, do you quote Malcolm X?

01:59:51.037 --> 01:59:54.896
Do you censor yourself or do you have one of the black students say it?

01:59:55.739 --> 01:59:56.282
Great question.

01:59:56.783 --> 02:00:02.368
Great question Because I'm not saying it, I'm not as a history teacher.

02:00:02.368 --> 02:00:10.796
My point is to say malcolm x or frederick douglas or, I don't think, martin luther king.

02:00:10.796 --> 02:00:11.779
I'm pretty sure he avoided.

02:00:11.779 --> 02:00:18.467
I think he really did not like, at least not in public at least not in public oh yeah, yeah, I guess it's some of the taste some of the taste.

02:00:18.488 --> 02:00:19.751
but he was yeah, yeah in.

02:00:19.751 --> 02:00:23.378
I guess in some of the tapes there's some FBI tapes where the Reverend let loose yeah.

02:00:24.708 --> 02:00:25.130
In public.

02:00:25.130 --> 02:00:26.854
He was also very loyal to his wife.

02:00:26.854 --> 02:01:00.417
But yeah, so that, even going back to the book, banning stuff of To Kill a Mockingbird or Huck Finn, Like one of the things about Huck Finn that drives me bonkers about Huck Finn and the N-word, is that one of the things that Mark Twain does in Huck Finn is that I guess you could do that, but then you still have.

02:01:00.465 --> 02:01:03.956
Even that is still wrong, because now you're violating district policy.

02:01:04.426 --> 02:01:07.555
Now I'm with Liberty, that is absolutely absurd, I agree.

02:01:07.555 --> 02:01:08.064
So.

02:01:08.064 --> 02:01:26.358
So one of the one of the one of the most important parts of the book of Huckleberry Finn, at the beginning of the journey, continually refers to Jim as N-word Jim, n-word, n-word.

02:01:26.358 --> 02:01:29.961
There you go, thank you, n-word Jim.

02:01:29.961 --> 02:01:31.881
I'm still going to say it like that, right.

02:01:37.171 --> 02:01:37.932
By the end of the book.

02:01:37.932 --> 02:01:38.694
What is he calling him?

02:01:38.694 --> 02:01:40.018
He called him my friend.

02:01:40.037 --> 02:01:44.346
He called him Jim, just started calling him Jim.

02:01:44.346 --> 02:01:45.207
It was just Jim, this is jim.

02:01:45.207 --> 02:01:54.065
That was the new, that's, that's like the central theme of the book of this young, of this young man.

02:01:54.065 --> 02:02:09.261
Yes, but to say, now we're going, you can't even read this book in school, because it has this magic word in it that kids can't handle reading it.

02:02:09.261 --> 02:02:11.471
But what did you just say, kj?

02:02:11.471 --> 02:02:21.298
You walk down any school and you see two young black men together, in military school, whatever, and they have no problem calling themselves.

02:02:21.539 --> 02:02:25.231
The cool thing about it is yeah, yeah, the cool things about it is I haven't even.

02:02:25.231 --> 02:02:33.257
I've seen I've seen a group of caucasian men calling each other the n-word and I'm just sitting back like all right.

02:02:33.257 --> 02:02:34.927
This is bizarre work that's, that's.

02:02:34.927 --> 02:02:39.806
That's a little bridge too far but then again, these are 19 year old you know.

02:02:39.867 --> 02:02:42.010
Oh, I feel what I'm saying.

02:02:42.811 --> 02:02:44.475
I'm like hey, bro, y'all good.

02:02:44.475 --> 02:02:46.578
Oh yeah, we straight Don't trip man.

02:02:46.578 --> 02:02:47.439
We don't mean it like that.

02:02:47.439 --> 02:02:48.909
It's different.

02:02:48.909 --> 02:02:50.101
Hold tight.

02:02:50.101 --> 02:02:52.458
Okay, let me teach you the nuance of that.

02:02:52.458 --> 02:02:55.529
You know what I'm saying, I get what you're saying and I'm going to let you know.

02:02:55.529 --> 02:03:00.917
I hear you, but everybody might not be as welcoming and accepting of that.

02:03:01.519 --> 02:03:02.984
Especially Well.

02:03:02.984 --> 02:03:10.567
Ok, so let me ask you this, kj, then, about that specific information or situation, Was your advice?

02:03:10.567 --> 02:03:23.805
Guys, it's probably not OK for you guys to be using that word because you're white in general, for you guys to be using that word because you're white in general.

02:03:23.805 --> 02:03:30.521
B, you should probably only use that when you're in private between yourselves and you know it's OK.

02:03:30.521 --> 02:03:31.185
What's your advice to those two?

02:03:31.425 --> 02:03:33.251
Because my advice and your advice I don't know if it's the same yeah, no.

02:03:33.251 --> 02:03:35.318
So my advice was like, my advice was be aware of your surroundings.

02:03:35.318 --> 02:03:41.837
You know, if you, if you're comfortable using that word, understand not everyone is going to be accepting of you using that word.

02:03:41.837 --> 02:03:42.359
That's it.

02:03:42.359 --> 02:03:47.729
I'm just giving you awareness, like, yeah, I, the word itself holds no weight for me.

02:03:47.729 --> 02:03:48.712
You know what I'm saying.

02:03:49.032 --> 02:03:55.475
But again, it holds but it holds weight for me If I say exactly what I'm saying is personal.

02:03:56.286 --> 02:03:59.475
The personal views vary, yeah, person to person.

02:03:59.475 --> 02:04:01.260
The personal views vary, yeah, person to person.

02:04:01.260 --> 02:04:05.989
Right Another black person could come down the street.

02:04:05.989 --> 02:04:08.282
Could have came down that street, heard them, young white men, saying it, and it could have been a whole different.

02:04:08.282 --> 02:04:08.823
You know a whole different.

02:04:08.823 --> 02:04:14.367
Yeah, you know what I'm saying and there's there's no right or wrong to it, because that's just that's.

02:04:14.367 --> 02:04:18.588
That that's the cause and the effect of that word being in our vernacular, that word being in our vernacular.

02:04:18.769 --> 02:04:27.033
And that's the funny thing is to me, because those two young men I would have said dude, even when you two are in private, you need to come up with a better word than that.

02:04:27.033 --> 02:04:38.378
It's just because because you start falling in that habit and it just yeah, it comes out and it's yeah, it's, it's just it's.

02:04:38.378 --> 02:04:47.783
There's certain words that are just do you remember the South Park episode where they set the record for curse words?

02:04:47.844 --> 02:04:50.645
It was the word shit, it was shit, oh shit, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:04:51.345 --> 02:05:01.560
And the joke was, by the end it was a curse word, a curse meaning to put a magic curse or it would cause a curse of evil.

02:05:01.560 --> 02:05:08.336
And so actually you know, it released Satan and it released the demons because it was a curse word.

02:05:08.336 --> 02:05:18.033
And so there are certain words that are just not generally acceptable and of course it depends on where you are.

02:05:18.033 --> 02:05:19.265
Like the C word in America.

02:05:19.265 --> 02:05:22.134
You don't call a woman a C word in America, but in England that's kind of like just a common.

02:05:22.134 --> 02:05:22.815
Yeah, it's on where you are.

02:05:22.815 --> 02:05:25.484
Like the C word in America you don't call a woman a C word in America, but in England that's kind of like just a common, yeah, yeah.

02:05:27.307 --> 02:05:27.509
Right.

02:05:27.509 --> 02:05:29.032
So you're talking about curse words, right?

02:05:29.032 --> 02:05:30.956
You don't curse everywhere, right?

02:05:30.956 --> 02:05:34.934
Right, for sure, even though it's generalistic, you don't curse everywhere.

02:05:34.934 --> 02:05:39.532
There's just some places where you know I can't use these words.

02:05:39.532 --> 02:05:40.774
Right.

02:05:40.774 --> 02:05:44.180
To me, the N-word is no different than a curse word.

02:05:44.180 --> 02:05:46.530
You just don't use it every way, right?

02:05:46.530 --> 02:05:46.932
Oh?

02:05:46.972 --> 02:05:47.493
you took it down.

02:05:47.493 --> 02:05:48.235
Hold on, oh, I took it down.

02:05:48.235 --> 02:05:49.150
Hey.

02:05:49.150 --> 02:05:50.664
So, liberty, you make a great point.

02:05:50.664 --> 02:06:17.652
I saw a comedian talk about this and he said I find it really interesting that this was a couple years ago ago there was a debate about the song baby, it's cold outside, which is a christmas song, and if you know that song, hey I really can't song.

02:06:17.692 --> 02:06:20.877
You know it's, it's kind of a christmasy song.

02:06:20.877 --> 02:06:22.439
Hey, come on, stay baby.

02:06:22.439 --> 02:06:23.060
Hey, why don't we?

02:06:23.060 --> 02:06:25.953
You know, come on, let's, we're comfortable by the fire?

02:06:25.953 --> 02:06:26.836
You don't really.

02:06:26.836 --> 02:06:30.328
It's cold outside and it got turned into, you know, the.

02:06:30.328 --> 02:06:34.181
The feminist movement said this is a rape song right meanwhile.

02:06:34.181 --> 02:06:45.012
And then he went from that and said here's the lyrics to the number one song in America right now, by whoever say the stallion, whatever, yeah.

02:06:45.715 --> 02:06:45.854
Yeah.

02:06:45.895 --> 02:07:05.060
Megan the stallion and he started reading the lyrics to WAP and it was like the disconnect between this lighthearted hey, you know what, I think you're sweet, I think we should stay together.

02:07:05.060 --> 02:07:06.261
I kind of dig you girl.

02:07:06.261 --> 02:07:10.970
It's hey, any excuse to make you have you stay a little bit longer.

02:07:10.970 --> 02:07:22.456
I'd really appreciate it Because, hey, I think you're cute and I think we have something going and that's somehow a rape culture where wet ass P word.

02:07:22.456 --> 02:07:28.014
See, I don't even know Again context, but my kids might watch this so I try not to swear too much.

02:07:28.014 --> 02:07:32.454
You know, dirty Like my kids they run around saying oh the dog farted.

02:07:32.454 --> 02:07:34.152
I'm like no, they tooted.

02:07:34.152 --> 02:07:40.045
Let's not be crude or fluffy For the bluey crowd fluffy.

02:07:40.927 --> 02:07:42.153
I don't curse in front of my mother.

02:07:42.153 --> 02:07:46.244
I'm a 40-something-year-old man and I refuse to do it because it's context.

02:07:46.364 --> 02:07:48.313
Yeah, I'm not sure I've ever sworn in front of my mom.

02:07:49.207 --> 02:07:51.395
I cannot bring myself to curse in front of my mother.

02:07:51.744 --> 02:08:07.576
I can tell you, the first time I ever swore at my dad, though, because I bolted as soon as I did it, I dropped the F-bomb and I was out the door, right, I was at the bottom of, oh, I was at the bottom of the stairs when I said it, and I said it and I I immediately vamoosed.

02:08:07.576 --> 02:08:21.453
I was gone for two hours before I was out, for two hours before I, before I deigned, and I tell you, my dad, like a trooper, didn't say anything about it, basically said you're not going to do that again, are you?

02:08:21.453 --> 02:08:22.315
And that was it.

02:08:22.315 --> 02:08:24.911
I was like nope, I don't think I ever swore at my dad again.

02:08:26.206 --> 02:08:27.511
Liberty, my thing is music.

02:08:27.786 --> 02:08:29.271
Yeah, they sing along with it, yeah.

02:08:33.268 --> 02:08:35.569
But again, we can't pretend like this is new, this is.

02:08:36.110 --> 02:08:36.470
Yeah.

02:08:36.511 --> 02:08:38.112
Hell man, you know we will.

02:08:38.112 --> 02:08:42.676
I know I was coming up in the south in the 90s to live.

02:08:42.676 --> 02:08:43.896
Are you kidding?

02:08:43.917 --> 02:08:48.841
me, oh my gosh, oh, so I will make a.

02:08:48.841 --> 02:08:49.622
I brought this up.

02:08:55.305 --> 02:08:57.692
Who am I to sit back and say now, as a 40 year old man, all those lyrics, those young men?

02:08:57.692 --> 02:08:58.635
And it's the same thing with jazz.

02:08:58.635 --> 02:09:05.574
When jazz kind of took over in the early, early night, early 20th century, everybody was like, oh, it's devil's music, it's making women want to tolerate this, that and the other.

02:09:05.574 --> 02:09:06.685
You get what I'm saying.

02:09:06.685 --> 02:09:08.268
Like, this is nothing new.

02:09:08.268 --> 02:09:10.792
This is society.

02:09:10.792 --> 02:09:12.435
Society is what it is.

02:09:12.435 --> 02:09:13.939
We've always been raunchy.

02:09:13.939 --> 02:09:18.112
It's just it's never been, it's never been as prevalent or in our face.

02:09:18.993 --> 02:09:23.220
Yeah, yes, and that's, and that was the point I was.

02:09:23.220 --> 02:09:27.396
I was just about to make Um there, there, there was a Madonna.

02:09:28.525 --> 02:09:31.472
I could play some blue songs for you from the 1920s that were.

02:09:31.472 --> 02:09:38.550
You know, if not, if not as as raunchy as WAP it was, it's pretty damn close.

02:09:38.550 --> 02:09:40.229
I mean, you had Madonna, madonna.

02:09:40.229 --> 02:09:42.636
Was she almost got hung at the stake?

02:09:43.364 --> 02:09:44.871
That's who I was just about to say.

02:09:44.871 --> 02:09:49.914
Um, I, I was listening to and I do not like Madonna.

02:09:49.914 --> 02:09:55.117
I'll tell you right now, I'm not a fan of Madonna at all and I I got stuck on somehow.

02:09:55.117 --> 02:10:01.658
I was, um, flipping the channels and and, and I don't, I think it's where I was.

02:10:01.658 --> 02:10:22.076
It was the only station that came in and I started listening to the lyrics and it might've been borderline, I think, but whatever song it was, I started listening to it and I was like this whole song is about having sex.

02:10:22.076 --> 02:10:24.511
It had never dawned on me.

02:10:24.511 --> 02:10:30.073
I didn't, because I don't really listen, but the whole every give me all of your.

02:10:30.073 --> 02:10:36.756
You know, whatever the song was, and I was just listening to it going, how did I, oh my gosh.

02:10:38.247 --> 02:10:39.090
And then my hairdresser.

02:10:39.090 --> 02:10:42.197
She was talking about like Harper County PTA.

02:10:42.197 --> 02:11:02.019
Now, I'm not a country guy, I barely know the song, but I guess because she was telling me the song is about she's there at the PTA meeting and they're dressing her down for her, how she's not a good parent or something, but then she's repeating back to them that their, their husbands, are out cheating on them on the weekend.

02:11:02.019 --> 02:11:05.113
So she's throwing the shade right back.

02:11:05.113 --> 02:11:06.166
So, yeah.

02:11:06.166 --> 02:11:25.181
So some of the songs and all that stuff, yeah, I get it, but at the same time, again I think, there is unfortunately a loosening of the language, that words pretty much go and you don't.

02:11:25.483 --> 02:11:26.805
I've made this argument a few times.

02:11:26.805 --> 02:11:28.831
It was the wrong messenger.

02:11:28.831 --> 02:11:31.506
Now it was the wrong messenger, but it was the right message.

02:11:31.506 --> 02:11:32.770
And this it was.

02:11:32.770 --> 02:11:45.095
Bill Cosby in the late nineties basically said look, as the black community, we need to have our kids pulling their pants up, being respectful and speaking proper English.

02:11:45.095 --> 02:11:48.755
And he just got killed by the black community right for saying that.

02:11:48.755 --> 02:12:02.390
And now you look at, and it doesn't matter if it's the black community or the white community or whatever, we have let pretty much all of our standards go In lots oh, you don't think so.

02:12:02.411 --> 02:12:04.492
We have let pretty much all of our standards go in lots?

02:12:04.492 --> 02:12:05.233
Oh, you don't think so?

02:12:05.233 --> 02:12:06.833
Well, I'll give you a point.

02:12:06.833 --> 02:12:08.835
It's more.

02:12:08.835 --> 02:12:29.802
There's a line of liberation and then there is a line of and I hate to use that word, but it is a line of you know that macho-ism, right, you think back in the 60s, marilyn Monroe wasn't beloved because she was modest.

02:12:29.802 --> 02:12:33.427
Marilyn Monroe was not loved because she was a conservative prostitution.

02:12:33.427 --> 02:12:38.798
If people were, if people were staunch supporters of modesty, prostitution would have died a long time ago.

02:12:38.798 --> 02:12:43.235
People don't go to strip clubs because women are modest, right?

02:12:43.235 --> 02:12:45.588
True, there is a there is a?

02:12:45.828 --> 02:12:46.390
I don't think so.

02:12:46.390 --> 02:12:46.650
I don't.

02:12:46.650 --> 02:12:48.636
I don't go to strip clubs, so I'll take your word for it.

02:12:49.024 --> 02:12:51.814
But what I'm saying is there is a level of there.

02:12:51.814 --> 02:12:55.845
People love sex, and there's nothing wrong with that, right?

02:12:55.925 --> 02:12:58.507
So, katie, I'm not but I'm not only talking.

02:12:58.507 --> 02:13:00.730
I'm talking more like what Liberty is putting here.

02:13:00.730 --> 02:13:04.475
It's not just about the moral issue.

02:13:04.475 --> 02:13:10.364
The English language has degraded Math.

02:13:10.385 --> 02:13:11.407
We went, I saw something that was really interesting.

02:13:11.407 --> 02:13:22.454
It was talking about math, how, over the last century, we went from it was a math program, a math problem, and it said it was like a square.

02:13:22.454 --> 02:13:28.855
And then it had a couple of things cut out of it and it said you know, define the area in this.

02:13:28.855 --> 02:13:33.372
And then it was, then it was a show what the area of this and this is.

02:13:33.372 --> 02:13:35.472
And then it was what's this rectangle?

02:13:35.472 --> 02:13:48.658
And then so basically it was a degradation of actually having to critically think what this math problem was, to figure out the area of the space all the way down to it's now A, b, c or D.

02:13:49.445 --> 02:13:52.215
You know, you don't even have to, you just have a, you can guess.

02:13:52.215 --> 02:14:00.219
And they've dumbed it down so much that if you don't get this right, you're really I mean, functionally retarded.

02:14:00.219 --> 02:14:10.489
Well, heck, even mean functionally retarded, um, well, heck, even that functionally retarded, you can't, you're not even supposed to say retarded anymore, even though that's the correct word, like to me, that is.

02:14:10.489 --> 02:14:13.716
That is the correct word, right?

02:14:13.716 --> 02:14:17.365
Yeah, well, it can be the right well, it's if you're calling.

02:14:17.445 --> 02:14:18.527
if you're called, calling it's not.

02:14:18.527 --> 02:14:19.766
But that's again.

02:14:19.766 --> 02:14:28.292
Functionally retarded means you are not able to function at an appropriate level within a given within the society.

02:14:28.292 --> 02:14:35.256
Right, and that's very different than me saying, oh, you're just a giant retard.

02:14:35.256 --> 02:14:44.442
You and I grew up when it was like, oh, dude, just stop being gay, stop being so gay, or that's okay, it didn't have anything to do with homosexuality.

02:14:44.442 --> 02:14:46.302
Oh man, stop being a fag.

02:14:46.302 --> 02:14:49.766
Oh, you're just just stop being a gay fag.

02:14:49.787 --> 02:15:02.010
It's like, dude, that had nothing to do with homosexuality in the 60s, well, in the 20s, say it, tell somebody you were going to give them some straight dick was to say I'm giving you straight, talk, going to give him some straight dick was to say I'm giving you straight talk, Right?

02:15:02.029 --> 02:15:02.631
I haven't heard that one.

02:15:02.631 --> 02:15:03.270
That's a new one for me.

02:15:03.371 --> 02:15:05.072
I actually learned it in a Superman comic.

02:15:05.613 --> 02:15:12.676
Oh yeah, but the point I'm making is you think anybody named Richard right now is getting nicknamed dick.

02:15:13.677 --> 02:15:14.257
Absolutely not.

02:15:14.257 --> 02:15:16.158
But again, that's what I'm saying.

02:15:16.158 --> 02:15:18.261
It evolves Liberty.

02:15:18.261 --> 02:15:21.802
To your point about standard English we never required standard English.

02:15:26.925 --> 02:15:28.150
If that was the case, we'd be talking the Queen's English.

02:15:28.150 --> 02:15:28.532
We've always had a.

02:15:28.532 --> 02:15:29.797
We've always had Me think you are Me think you are correct.

02:15:29.797 --> 02:15:31.225
We should return to the proper way.

02:15:31.824 --> 02:15:34.550
A different dialect of English and that that doesn't.

02:15:34.550 --> 02:15:37.734
Yeah, you know, grammar rules are what they are.

02:15:37.734 --> 02:15:39.136
It's society, right?

02:15:39.136 --> 02:15:39.516
Yeah?

02:15:44.146 --> 02:15:45.743
And we're going to talk about this in some time.

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Coming up, there's one of our hopefully our guests, if our guests ever start showing up.

02:15:51.010 --> 02:15:54.613
We've had like I think we've had like five scheduled.

02:15:54.613 --> 02:16:09.547
We're batting 400 right now, which is great for baseball, not so much for podcasts, but she wants to talk and and, uh, she's a school teacher and and the book is called she wants to really discuss anti-intellectual in america.

02:16:09.547 --> 02:16:10.453
And I actually read the book.

02:16:10.453 --> 02:16:14.109
I thought it was, I thought it was interesting because they're so she.

02:16:14.109 --> 02:16:22.109
The book places, uh, the degradation of education in america in a lot of different places and intellectualism not just in one place.

02:16:22.810 --> 02:16:24.514
So, yeah, I know what you're talking about.

02:16:24.514 --> 02:16:26.377
Yeah, yeah, so there's a good yeah.

02:16:26.478 --> 02:16:29.895
If, like I said, if she shows up, so yeah there.

02:16:29.895 --> 02:16:32.186
Well, liberty, I mean right now.

02:16:32.186 --> 02:16:34.433
I asked a kid what does Finna mean?

02:16:34.433 --> 02:16:43.488
Now, I know, I know in context, I'm finna go to and I was like where does that come from?

02:16:43.488 --> 02:16:52.852
Like I'm I'm fixing to, I'm finna, I'm going to, I guess it's I'm fixing to I, and it turned into that's you know, I'm going to, I'm finna, go get some food yeah, it just kept getting.

02:16:52.952 --> 02:16:57.566
I mean, but yeah, yeah, and look back over the evolution of language, right.

02:16:57.566 --> 02:17:09.647
So you had the northern states, who were always considered the English standard, and you had the southern half of the country that was considered, in essence, country bumping, right?

02:17:09.647 --> 02:17:14.172
So that's where you had that country slang, that vernacular, and it just all blended together.

02:17:14.172 --> 02:17:17.814
No, you're not.

02:17:17.814 --> 02:17:18.817
You're not.

02:17:18.817 --> 02:17:26.658
You're not because the standard of English has always been what society allows.

02:17:26.658 --> 02:17:34.547
You know, for a very long time they even tried to coin the phrase ebonics for a while, right, and that was the big thing.

02:17:34.547 --> 02:17:37.052
Oh, ebonics, ebonics, ebonics, ebonics, ebonics.

02:17:37.052 --> 02:17:39.298
Until it became culturally relevant.

02:17:39.298 --> 02:17:41.549
And then everybody was like, okay, well, cool.

02:17:42.634 --> 02:17:44.671
Okay, so this is what I saw.

02:17:44.671 --> 02:17:48.273
This is what I saw in the junior high school.

02:17:48.273 --> 02:17:54.457
That was the prompt at end of the year up on a poster board.

02:17:54.457 --> 02:17:56.908
Let me put it back up.

02:17:56.908 --> 02:17:57.451
You got it.

02:17:57.451 --> 02:17:58.609
I'm going to put it back up first.

02:17:58.609 --> 02:18:01.469
Okay, and dude, you keep popping the next one up.

02:18:01.469 --> 02:18:02.372
No, no, yeah, go ahead, I'm put it back up.

02:18:02.372 --> 02:18:02.634
You got it.

02:18:02.654 --> 02:18:03.397
I'm going to put it back up first.

02:18:03.397 --> 02:18:04.400
Okay, and dude, you keep popping the next one up.

02:18:04.400 --> 02:18:04.861
No, no, yeah, go ahead.

02:18:04.861 --> 02:18:05.524
I'm putting it back up, go ahead.

02:18:06.546 --> 02:18:08.093
Mr Johnson, be like.

02:18:08.093 --> 02:18:18.846
This was in the eighth grade hallway and I said to one of the other teachers I was like, we're in a school, is this like?

02:18:18.846 --> 02:18:20.889
Is this really what should be?

02:18:20.889 --> 02:18:23.033
Is this really what should be?

02:18:23.033 --> 02:18:27.100
And the argument was well, you got to meet them where they are.

02:18:27.100 --> 02:18:38.485
So, liberty, I'm with you.

02:18:38.504 --> 02:18:40.486
I think that when you're in the school environment, we should be making corrections to language.

02:18:40.486 --> 02:19:06.922
However, we're also in an environment where if a child, especially in socioeconomic challenged areas, were to say something like, let's say it made a correction, okay, there's I, I got, uh, I got lots of, I've got many dirt.

02:19:06.922 --> 02:19:08.926
I've got many dirt in my hand.

02:19:08.926 --> 02:19:11.272
And somebody go dude, that's not how you say it.

02:19:11.272 --> 02:19:11.953
You say lots.

02:19:11.953 --> 02:19:15.929
If you can't count, it, it's lots, and if it's you can count, it's many.

02:19:15.929 --> 02:19:18.513
You got many jelly beans.

02:19:19.395 --> 02:19:22.719
You know how hard that kid would get teased for making the proper correction.

02:19:22.719 --> 02:19:38.645
You know, weird Al did that entire song about grammatical errors and it was a big hit because people of our generation say we understand some of those.

02:19:38.645 --> 02:19:42.186
But you have people who don't know the difference between there, there and there.

02:19:42.186 --> 02:19:48.807
They, they literally do not have the right conjunctions, they don't know the right words.

02:19:48.807 --> 02:19:55.529
They don't know verbs, adverbs, and that's where I'm saying the degradation of of the country and of the education system.

02:19:55.529 --> 02:20:03.989
I think if something's gonna really end America, it's probably that, because idiocracy is the ultimate end game for us.

02:20:04.209 --> 02:20:05.716
Yeah, education overall.

02:20:05.716 --> 02:20:07.763
But but I want to Liberty's point.

02:20:07.763 --> 02:20:12.114
Yeah, we sure we can, but right, we don't, we don't hold as an employer.

02:20:12.114 --> 02:20:16.840
As an employer, you can say, oh well, yeah well, someone's not speaking proper English.

02:20:16.840 --> 02:20:19.549
You know this, that and the other Right, so would you?

02:20:19.549 --> 02:20:23.618
Would you take a Harvard graduate from Boston who uses the word wicked?

02:20:23.618 --> 02:20:28.155
Would you look at them different If they say, oh, I got a wicked, you know a wicked bone, or whatever?

02:20:28.155 --> 02:20:30.152
Oh, I had a wicked weekend, right?

02:20:30.152 --> 02:20:41.091
So those dialects, when we do those things like that, that tends to lean heavier toward disenfranchised minorities, right, I remember in the early 90s.

02:20:41.091 --> 02:20:47.308
In the early 90s they had this thing out West called Valley slang, right, valley girls.

02:20:47.668 --> 02:20:48.229
Valley girls.

02:20:48.229 --> 02:20:50.397
Oh yeah, gag me with a spoon.

02:20:50.397 --> 02:20:52.751
There was a whole song on it, yeah.

02:20:53.031 --> 02:20:54.136
Absolutely horrible.

02:20:54.465 --> 02:20:55.047
Frank Zappa.

02:20:55.528 --> 02:21:01.985
Right, but that that was not, that was not considered improper, nor was that considered, you know, a lack of ignorance.

02:21:01.985 --> 02:21:06.797
That was just a cultural deviant from what standard English is.

02:21:06.797 --> 02:21:08.566
So what I'm saying is so.

02:21:08.566 --> 02:21:16.379
What I'm saying is, when we do things like that, when we do things like that, we got to be cognizant of where that all coming from.

02:21:16.379 --> 02:21:19.150
We got to be cognizant of where, where's that coming from?

02:21:19.150 --> 02:21:19.451
Right?

02:21:19.451 --> 02:21:44.305
So yeah, and then, even if you, even in your conversations, liberty daily, you don't speak or at least I will tell you, 99.98 of the american population does not speak anywhere close to a proficient level of proper english in their day-to-day conversations, there is probably, I guess, it depends.

02:21:44.646 --> 02:21:48.730
I guess it depends on what, Like you and I, though, like during our conversation.

02:21:48.730 --> 02:21:53.994
What percentage would you say during an average podcast?

02:21:53.994 --> 02:22:00.593
What level of English proficiency do we use, Because I'd like to think we're pretty high.

02:22:02.565 --> 02:22:03.247
Probably anywhere.

02:22:03.247 --> 02:22:05.555
I'd say 60, 70 percent maybe.

02:22:06.085 --> 02:22:09.182
So what you're saying is I'm at 100 percent and you're at 30 percent.

02:22:09.182 --> 02:22:10.530
You're just absolutely killing the average.

02:22:10.530 --> 02:22:11.515
That's what I'm hearing, probably.

02:22:11.575 --> 02:22:14.306
Yeah, probably that's my southern twang man.

02:22:14.306 --> 02:22:16.289
I will never apologize.

02:22:16.289 --> 02:22:18.310
Never apologize for my southern twang.

02:22:19.711 --> 02:22:21.334
No, but I mean like, do I wish?

02:22:21.334 --> 02:22:22.014
Do I do?

02:22:22.014 --> 02:22:24.516
I wish we all sounded like Winchester on MASH?

02:22:24.516 --> 02:22:27.841
Yes, the guy had an awesome accent and his accent was fake.

02:22:27.841 --> 02:22:37.663
That's not what the guy really sounded like.

02:22:37.743 --> 02:23:04.899
Yeah, yeah, I think that, liberty, I get your point and tell me if I'm wrong, but I think liberty, I think what liberty is saying is if we don't correct kids in real world, like for a job interview, it hurts them because they are unable to then speak in a way that makes them sound intelligent and it makes them sound like they are going to be able to communicate well and proficiently.

02:23:04.899 --> 02:23:09.015
But unfortunately, it might be the exact opposite.

02:23:09.015 --> 02:23:21.539
It might be to the point where, 20 years from now, we're speaking proper English and a 20-year-old is going what are you even saying?

02:23:21.539 --> 02:23:23.586
Like, I don't get what you're saying.

02:23:23.586 --> 02:23:46.853
And my where I'm coming from is that as a society, we're degrading in almost every way we can imagine outside a roof, because we all have a car, because we all have a car, we all have a tv, we all have air conditioning, we all have an ipad, we all have a cell phone.

02:23:46.853 --> 02:24:09.031
So our ease of life is increasing where our ability to cognitively communicate and think and critically use our brains in ways that will better us as a society are going down, in part because of that technology as well.

02:24:09.031 --> 02:24:10.754
What's the old joke?

02:24:10.754 --> 02:24:19.709
We've all seen that meme where our teacher said we had to learn math because we're not always going to walk around with a calculator in our pocket.

02:24:19.709 --> 02:24:21.396
Well, she's right.

02:24:21.396 --> 02:24:38.577
We don't walk around with a calculator in our pocket, we walk around with a freaking computer in our pocket, and that is something that, unfortunately, could have some very long-term effects, or it could be, depending on how the programming goes.

02:24:38.577 --> 02:24:52.293
It could be the greatest thing in the history of human advancement, to the degree that we all basically become the best level of fat WALL-E people without destroying the planet.

02:24:52.293 --> 02:24:56.914
And everything is super easy and AI is able to figure out.

02:24:56.914 --> 02:25:15.585
Cancer is able to be destroyed by this and I'm able using AI, I'm able to create a genetic, a shot that you can take that will genetically make you not go blind from glaucoma.

02:25:15.585 --> 02:25:19.454
It will eradicate every.

02:25:19.454 --> 02:25:21.259
It'll get rid of the common cold.

02:25:21.259 --> 02:25:27.198
It will make it where, essentially, food production is all done by robots and you can live.

02:25:27.198 --> 02:25:35.227
And instead of dystopian, it's going to be a utopian, because dystopian cells, blade Runner, right, everybody.

02:25:35.227 --> 02:25:38.327
Oh, blade Runner's great, even some of the.

02:25:38.849 --> 02:25:42.197
What was the one where Matt Damon Elysium?

02:25:42.197 --> 02:25:46.995
I think it was where they were on the earth and it was kind of falling apart.

02:25:46.995 --> 02:25:52.251
But then up in space there was the ring and Jodie Foster was the governor and it was utopian.

02:25:54.054 --> 02:26:00.790
Who's to say that where we're at now we don't end up in a utopian society in 100 years?

02:26:00.790 --> 02:26:13.779
I think that's definitely possible, that not just that Elysium becomes the norm for everybody.

02:26:13.779 --> 02:26:20.231
I personally think that that is the more likely outcome, think that that is the more likely outcome.

02:26:20.231 --> 02:26:26.581
I don't think 1984 is the more likely outcome.

02:26:26.581 --> 02:26:42.825
I think that Brave New World is the more likely outcome, where anybody who wants to be plugged in and take the happy drugs and sit in front of the screen and just be taken care of they can do that.

02:26:42.925 --> 02:26:51.298
And those who don't, those who want to live off the grid and those who want to go out and live on the reservation and be left alone and not in the cities.

02:26:51.738 --> 02:27:19.512
And I know that you know that's not the real whole thing of Brave New World, but I think that's ultimately where we will be in 100 years those who want to participate in the society in a let the machines take care of me, and I want to kick back and I want to be entertained and I want to just live my life however I want, on my floating chair and I'm happy being out in the sun.

02:27:19.512 --> 02:27:25.254
There are going to be those, and there are going to be those people who are Marines and go oh, I like to.

02:27:25.254 --> 02:27:26.745
The more it sucks, the more I like it.

02:27:26.745 --> 02:27:36.729
So I'm going to go live off the grid and I'm going to live in a cabin and dig my own poop hole and collect water every day, and that's how I'm going to live.

02:27:36.729 --> 02:27:37.811
And you know what?

02:27:37.811 --> 02:27:41.415
If that's the case, I think you're going to have a lot of happy people on both sides.

02:27:42.537 --> 02:27:55.511
Yep, I am in more of the belief that idiocracy is our future, Unless we culturally change something like there needs to be a revolution back toward intelligence and rewarding the best of us.

02:27:55.511 --> 02:28:01.313
Right now we reward the worst of us and that's kind of what's sparking the downward trend of society.

02:28:01.524 --> 02:28:05.193
But do you think AI can pull us out of idiocracy?

02:28:06.217 --> 02:28:06.538
It could.

02:28:09.291 --> 02:28:10.013
That's my thought.

02:28:10.765 --> 02:28:15.117
The potential is there for us to become an enlightened species.

02:28:15.117 --> 02:28:20.796
However, just like with the first computer, the first thing somebody looked up was porn.

02:28:20.796 --> 02:28:22.158
You know what I'm saying?

02:28:22.158 --> 02:28:24.750
Human nature is what it is.

02:28:24.750 --> 02:28:25.370
Is that true?

02:28:25.370 --> 02:28:30.270
Yeah, all right, human nature is what it is.

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I'm going to post the link one more time next Friday.

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There's the link Again.

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We're going to double tap the broadcast next Friday, 9.15.

02:28:47.539 --> 02:28:49.994
I will be taking on Andrew from the Crucible.

02:28:49.994 --> 02:28:52.833
Oh, I didn't tell you what the prompt is.

02:28:52.833 --> 02:29:00.364
Was Joseph Smith a false prophet being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

02:29:00.364 --> 02:29:10.396
I obviously don't think he was a false prophet, and what's really funny about this was originally it was supposed to be him against another guy, and then that other guy wasn't even Mormon, he's not even LDS.

02:29:10.396 --> 02:29:15.014
So they reached out to me and they said, okay, good news, you're up.

02:29:15.014 --> 02:29:17.227
I was like, yeah, I'll take it, because I just thought it was funny.

02:29:17.227 --> 02:29:20.093
You're going to have somebody who's not even LDS debating this.

02:29:20.093 --> 02:29:25.451
Okay, sure, why don't I debate how hard it is to be black in America?

02:29:26.213 --> 02:29:27.255
You got it Brilliant.

02:29:27.255 --> 02:29:29.109
You read books, you read books, so you know.

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Hey man, I've done learned.

02:29:31.811 --> 02:29:32.554
This has been great.

02:29:32.554 --> 02:29:33.870
We will see you guys.

02:29:34.385 --> 02:29:36.406
Two and a half hours, dude, this is old school.

02:29:36.867 --> 02:29:37.949
Yeah, we were rocking today.

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Thank you guys for joining in Liberty man.

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We sure appreciate you.

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We will see you guys next week.

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Hopefully we'll keep trying to get guests, man.

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Eventually one of them will show up.

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Yeah, you too, thad.

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Thank you Happy Father's Day.

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Liberty Thad you guys.

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To the guys out there in the universe, today's our day.

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Enjoy the socks and the presents you're going to get tonight.

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The one day we matter See you guys next week.

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Bye everyone, I got to take the banner down.

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Take the banner down and end stream.

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What do you want to do tonight?

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The same thing we do every night Pinky, Try to take over the world.

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All right Yo, let's get into it.

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Try to take over the world All right Yo, let's get into it.

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Try to take over the world Yep Preaching Try to take over the world.

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And great chaplain in the world, mr Lance O'Neill, take over the world, all right.