March 30, 2025

"Aftershocks & Alliances: Navigating Political Turbulence"

Send us a text In this thought-provoking episode, military veterans KJ Bradley and Chaplain Lance O'Neal tackle America's most divisive issues with refreshing candor and nuanced perspective. The conversation opens with an examination of Trump's controversial suggestion of pursuing a third term—a constitutional impossibility that nevertheless reveals concerning patterns about power consolidation in modern governance. The hosts expertly break down what this would actually require, with Lance ar...

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In this thought-provoking episode, military veterans KJ Bradley and Chaplain Lance O'Neal tackle America's most divisive issues with refreshing candor and nuanced perspective. The conversation opens with an examination of Trump's controversial suggestion of pursuing a third term—a constitutional impossibility that nevertheless reveals concerning patterns about power consolidation in modern governance. The hosts expertly break down what this would actually require, with Lance arguing that even if attempted, military leadership would resist such overreach.

Shifting to public health concerns, KJ and Lance dissect the current measles outbreaks sweeping through communities with declining vaccination rates. Through a fascinating discussion featuring classic Brady Bunch clips being misused to downplay vaccine importance, they explore how the politicization of COVID vaccines has unfortunately created skepticism toward established immunizations that previously enjoyed bipartisan support. Their conversation highlights the delicate balance between personal medical choices and collective responsibility, particularly when unvaccinated individuals put vulnerable populations at risk.

The most compelling segment examines political tribalism through the story of a Trump supporter who previously criticized the Black community now seeking their help for her son's legal troubles. This launches the hosts into a profound exploration of loyalty, consequences, and whether we should help those who've actively opposed our values when they suddenly need support. Drawing from personal examples, they reveal how maintaining relationships across political divides becomes increasingly challenging when those relationships lack reciprocal respect.

The show concludes with a sobering analysis of America's justice system, where both hosts acknowledge legitimate concerns about racial and economic disparities in sentencing while debating different approaches to achieving fairness. Their military perspectives offer unique insights into institutional loyalty, highlighting how organizations often demand unwavering support without offering the same in return—a lesson Lance hints will be fully revealed in an upcoming episode about his retirement from the chaplain corps.

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00:00 - Intro and Trump's Third Term Possibility

16:29 - Measles Outbreak and Vaccine Debate

51:11 - Politics and Personal Loyalty

01:05:24 - Justice System Bias and Jury Duty

01:26:44 - Closing Thoughts and Chaplain's Story Teaser

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What do you want to do tonight?

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The same thing we do every night.

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Pinky, try to take over the world.

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All right, yo, let's get into it.

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Try to take over the world, you're preaching freedom.

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Try to take over the world.

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And bring Chaplin in the world, try to take in the world, trying to take over the world.

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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, we are back.

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It is Sunday at 830.

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Man, do you know where your pogues are?

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Of course you do.

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We are back in the lab for another Sunday and, man, it is dark.

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Let me try to see if we can get some lighting going on in here.

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We got everything going on.

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I am back by the skin of my teeth.

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It's your boy, kj Bradley, and the world's greatest chaplain, mr Lance O'Neal Chappy.

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What up, man?

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How you doing this week, brother?

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Good, uneventful.

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Can't think of anything that happened eventful I know, man, if only, if only this administration is so boring man they just huh.

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If only they would give us something to talk about either way oh, you know what's?

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what's funny about that is I think I told you this after the election.

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I had a friend who's a uh white female who went all in on the uh anti-trump like she.

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She would post stuff online that was just blatantly false, blatantly untrue, and then she was just it's so horrible.

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I have to deal with this now, blah, blah, blah.

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And I'm sitting there going.

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If you are this emotional because of the person that's in the White House for like three days, step away from the keyboard.

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You need to turn your computer off, go be with your kids and stop worrying about it because we are three days in.

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So I mean, there's stuff obviously that's going to affect us down the road.

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Sure, Good and bad, We'll see how it all turns out to to react like that after a couple of days.

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just I don't know you may have she may have been she may have been a suit sale with the way everything's going.

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To be honest with you, let's jump into it.

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Man, we got a lot to talk about, a little bit time to get it into all right.

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So the first topic on hand you got president number 45, president number 47 and potentially president number 48.

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So what we found out this week?

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Yeah, so what we found out this week that POTUS said that he is not ruling out a third term.

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So his goal?

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We initially it was brought up and they was like, oh, he's just, it's rhetoric, it's rhetoric, it's rhetoric.

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One thing we've learned so far this administration is, if you hear more than once, it's not just, it's not just rhetoric.

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Um matter of fact, I believe in the interview he was quoted as saying I'm serious, I don't know, he's like it's too early to tell, but I'm considering it and I'm like all right, cool, I got you.

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So what are your thoughts on opening the doors up?

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I mean, obviously it's.

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You know, he's going to need, he's going to need congressional approval first and then he's going to need the states to ratify it at least 38, 39, I think, to even get a shot at it.

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But when you got the Senate in your pocket, and you got the House in your pocket and you got the SCOTUS in your pocket.

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I'm not putting it past them to at least try.

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That's not why Three words.

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First word unconstitutional.

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You just covered it right, You've got to change the Constitution.

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We can't get the states together and say it's a bad thing to kill babies, Okay, so that one.

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But this is the more important two words If you change the Constitution so that he can run a third term.

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Those two words are Barack Obama.

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Barack Obama beats Trump.

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Handedly.

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He just does.

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I don't think POTUS wants the smoke.

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So the way the framework works is the way or, hypothetically, if the administration were to war game it from, what I understand is they would write it so as you can seek a third term as long as your two terms aren't back to back, and that would essentially disqualify their greatest threat.

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But then again, to be honest with you, I don't know if the Obamas will be interested in doing that the third time.

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I do, I do.

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I think the Obamas are as much power.

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Here's the thing that we've talked about this Anybody who's president is a narcissistic, power hungry monger, right you have to be To want to actively go and become the President of the United States to run the politics of it.

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To get to that point, you have to believe you are the greatest person in the world to be able to sit down and be I'm the only one who should be in this seat.

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That's not, and again, that's just how it is.

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I don't care if that was Trump, I don't care if it was Obama, I don't care if it was Romney or McCain or Reagan or Kemp.

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Right, they all think that because, in large part, you have to be fair, the Republicans have stayed out of the limelight, though, unless called upon, like they reluctantly come out to endorse people, but politically they've they've kind of kept their distance.

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I don't know, I think.

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I think it's very much like Clinton when he left.

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Oh, no, no, no, no, you're talking about the Obamas and the Clintons.

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No, no, what I'm saying is I think the Clintons worked behind the scenes.

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Now, part of it was because Hillary was actively trying to become president and Michelle Obama isn't.

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But I think there were a lot of kissing the ring, going back to the Obamas and saying, hey, what should we do?

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Who should we?

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I think the Obama administration or the Biden administration was, and it's fine.

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I don't necessarily have a problem with it because it's just how it works, but I think the Obama administration was basically Eighty 90 percent of the Biden administration.

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Like all the people are right, I think the people of the Biden administration were much more loyal to Barack Obama than they were to Joe Biden and the party.

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Of course, the Tammany Hall.

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I'll give you the party, but I'll give you the party.

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But Biden had his own people.

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Matter of fact, I believe in some.

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Well, no, they came out with.

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They came out with.

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I can't remember the art art author right now, but I remember reading the biography about all that.

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And then they asked him about the endorsement, about the Biden endorsement.

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At first Barack was hesitant to endorse Biden because he had screwed him over with the Hillary thing and they weren't really on good terms.

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Well, he wanted to wait until the primary played out.

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No, no, I'm talking about the Biden.

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I'm talking about when Biden got elected.

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In what?

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2020?

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That's what I mean, though Obama waited until Biden broke free of the PAC.

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Oh yeah, you're right.

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And the question there would be did Obama make a few phone calls and say, hey, we need to support Joe?

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Well, he had.

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I think there's high likelihood it's so.

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It's.

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It's all those stories and whispers you kind of hear about Kobe and Shaq, or Carl Malone and Kobe and the Lakers, or whatever team, right, Whatever team you follow, you always hear there's whispers about those.

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Oh, there's these stories that happen behind the scenes, but nobody.

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Oh man, if you only knew, if you only knew.

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It's like you don't know because nobody's going to talk.

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Now, take that as an MBA level to the presidency, so you don't even hear.

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I don't know.

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This administration seems to talk a lot.

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You just got to get in the right chat groups, apparently to get all the head start.

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Well, but again you look at what happens.

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Usually it's not done until afterwards and it was such a breach of decorum.

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Again I go back to Mark Esper's book and what he wrote about, what he did to basically undermine 45.

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Normally you don't see books like that.

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They don't come out and say, hey, these are the inner workings, this is what was really good.

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Mattis my guess is Mad Dog Mattis could probably write a 52 to 100 week on the bestseller New York Times list Easily by writing a book that says my time in the White House Easily Right.

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Why doesn't he?

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Because he's got the decorum to say what happens in the White House is between me and the president and it's not for fodder.

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So again, here's the other side of that argument.

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As far as the terms go To me, if I'm a lawyer for the Obamas, let's say Barack Obama wants to run again.

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If you get that change, All he has to do is say well, wait a minute.

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So I just had my first two and now I want my third because it's split.

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So Trump is saying he wants his two split and then the second one on the back end Show me why.

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One's other than the different right.

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So I, I just I understand the thought of, if they say it, it might be true.

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But you know what I could say over and over and over and over something that is just kind of in my brain that I like to bring up whatever it is doesn't make it true, doesn't make it gonna happen.

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I am actively, I'm just KJ, I'm just putting it out there, I'm just putting in the universe, I'm just I'm just wondering what if?

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What if the Dodgers traded for Acuna Jr?

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Just I think it could happen?

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what if?

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No, no, no, see, we can't do that.

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No, no, we can't do that.

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No, no, we can't do that.

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Here's the difference, right, you can say that Because you're worried that might happen.

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No, no, no.

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You can say that, but you have absolutely no bearing on that.

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As President Trump, who has the DOJ in his hand and let's be clear, pam Bundy is far from impartial she's do whatever potus tells her.

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So if potus says, hey, yeah, well, besides the point, what I'm the point I'm making is if potus goes to pam and says, hey, find a way to make this happen, she's gonna explore and that that's just what it is you know.

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So she's gonna come back and say the only way to do it is to get a constitutional amendment passed.

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I don't know we can push for it to get a constitutional amendment passed.

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I don't know.

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We can push for it, but it's just not going to happen.

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Okay, let me ask you this If Barack Obama had gone to Eric Holder and asked the same question, do you think Eric Holder would have said no, I'm not going to look into it.

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No, I understand you're asking, but no.

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No.

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But again you compare.

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The character of Barack Obama and the character of Donald Trump are two different things.

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Here's where that matters.

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It doesn't matter, no, no, no, that matters.

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And I'm going to tell you why it matters.

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Because when Eric Holder comes back to Barack Obama and says hey man, the only way you can do it is if you get Congress to do it and then the states to do it, barack Obama says, all right, cool, it's a constitutional thing.

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Barack Obama says, all right, cool, it's a congressional, it's a constitutional thing.

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My hands are tied, right.

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But what you have, what you have found in this administration, is, even if Pam Bundy got a conscious and was able to say hey, look, it's a constitutional thing, our hands are tied, this POTUS is not going to, it's not going to be done with it.

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This POTUS is going to say constitution, be damned, find me a way, and he's proven it.

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Well, I mean, we shouldn't be damned, find me a way, and he's proven it.

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Well, I mean, we can disagree but I mean, they've proven it time and time again.

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I don't think they have, and here's why I say that there's a difference between saying something and doing something.

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And the reason I say that he won't is very simple.

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Forty five, we had all this.

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We had all the same rhetoric.

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No, when he got elected the first time you got to stop that.

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45 and 47 are two totally different reigns.

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It's just not you can't.

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You can't.

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It's not 45.

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Listen, 45 had mechanisms in place, right?

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45 had people in positions to where they was like, hey man, this is a no-go Stop.

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So no matter how hard 45 pushed, he couldn't get it through.

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Whereas in this administration he learned and he put the people in place.

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Who's not going to tell him no, they're going to tell him let's go, let's see how far we can push, but that's what when we compare the range?

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But that's what.

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I'm saying, when you compare the range of 45 and 47, it's completely different, because the stopgaps and the protections that were there for 45 to keep him from being an absolute lunatic, are not there as President 47.

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They're just not there.

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Sure, they are.

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Sure they are.

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By who?

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By who?

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Who in the administration do you believe is going to stand up to the president?

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Who?

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The Supreme Court of the United States?

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Oh, come on, man.

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Hey, you cannot tell me.

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You can't look at the judgments that have come across in the last year and go oh, the SCOTUS is in the pocket of the Republicans in the right.

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We've seen time and time again yes, yes, I absolutely can.

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You have empirical.

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All right, it's one thing to dispute opinion, but we have empirical evidence.

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Man, we're not talking about yeah, we're not talking about, you know well, we're not talking about Braves and Dodgers winning the World Series, man, we're talking about facts, man.

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The only way.

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Well, the fact is, the vast majority of decisions by the Supreme Court have been 7 to 2 or higher, which has absolutely nothing to do with the tea in Indonesia, right?

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now?

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Sure, you were just talking about history.

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You were just saying we've seen what he's doing and what are the stopgaps?

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Here's the other one.

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What is the only?

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Okay, let's go.

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Let's war game what you just said?

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Sure, sure, let's go.

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Okay, the only way to get this done is a constitutional amendment.

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Correct, absolutely Okay.

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Right now, and you're saying and you're saying, even if Trump says F it, I'm staying in and, Constitution be damned, we'll change it.

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So we're actually going to take that next step towards a because he's not fascist, but towards a he's not.

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Well, what I mean is because fascism is a very specific thing and people throw that word out.

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He's not a fascist, Okay, but he is a, what we've talked about.

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He's a narcissist.

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You're struggling to find a word to describe it without saying what he is A soft if it went down that path.

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A soft dictatorship, let's say that Soft dictatorship.

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Well, sure, sure, because you still, he's still, he's still going to be under the guise of saying, hey, there's still a democracy, blah, blah, blah.

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It's not going to be full martial law, except if it goes full martial law.

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And that's my point.

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The only way to do this, and the only way to do it, is to take control of the military in a way that it is and people use the word again.

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They say it's a coup.

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It's not a coup If you're already in office, you're consolidating power and then you're using the military to stay in power.

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That's not a coup.

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That is the beginning of a dictatorship, right, okay?

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So if he were to go down that path, I firmly believe that the military writ large would not support that.

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You might have some.

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I just think you would have too many people you could have.

00:16:39.902 --> 00:16:46.873
Let's say you had half half of the general officers go along with that.

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Let's say Well, the other half say it, no way in hell.

00:16:50.426 --> 00:16:57.572
Right, and I think the lower you go to the officer corps, it gets even wider.

00:16:57.572 --> 00:17:02.381
30% say no, we're not doing that, or I mean I'm sorry.

00:17:02.381 --> 00:17:04.288
30% say we're supporting this.

00:17:04.288 --> 00:17:05.310
70% say no.

00:17:05.310 --> 00:17:07.105
You get to the senior enlisted.

00:17:07.105 --> 00:17:08.328
It's 2080.

00:17:08.328 --> 00:17:10.464
You get down the junior enlisted and they're going.

00:17:10.464 --> 00:17:12.810
We don't know what do we do.

00:17:12.810 --> 00:17:34.282
And the senior NCOs the senior we've talked I have had this discussion with friends not about Trump, but about previous situations right, the average senior you know this because you were an average senior NCO the average senior NCO is going to go.

00:17:34.282 --> 00:17:34.845
There is no way in hell.

00:17:34.845 --> 00:17:36.951
I'm going to do this because that is unconstitutional.

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I don't care what they say, I disagree.

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I know it's unconstitutional.

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I disagree extremely, because I was.

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We happened to serve at the pleasure of the president when Barack Hussein Obama was elected and, being in those trenches and hearing those conversations, I can tell you emphatically that there is enough support and groundswell behind Trump If he says hey look, I need your help to make sure that I am president for the rest of my life.

00:18:01.132 --> 00:18:02.842
There is just enough.

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There is just enough idiocracy in society to make that happen.

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Are you saying that in the conversations you had in those trenches, people were saying, hey, if Obama wants to stay in, I'm there?

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No, no, no, no.

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What I'm saying is in the no.

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What I'm saying is there was enough idiocracy for people in uniform to say dumb stuff about against a POTUS who was in president, A POTUS who was in charge.

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This guy's an idiot that you had him say as an idiot.

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This guy's an idiot, right.

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Well, not just that, not just that, not just that.

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And you know I'm not going to do this and you know I don't care what he says and this, that, that.

00:18:41.307 --> 00:18:55.136
And somebody said, even to the point to where they would openly be discussing and we're talking about in a top right, openly discussing the, the simulated assassination and what would happen to a president.

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So I've seen, I've seen the idiocracy of society.

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So it would not be, it would not, it would not get past me that if POTUS was to call on his minions and say, hey, look, we need to keep this 430, and this is how he's going to play it, he's going to make up some story about the Democrats trying to take over and the only way to save the republic is going to be him.

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Okay, here's why I disagree, and then we'll move on to the next one.

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Here's why I disagree.

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We both I'm sure I know I have have heard story after story, planning session after planning session we're going to jump the first sergeant.

00:19:33.836 --> 00:19:41.270
The first sergeant is just a POS, this guy man, somebody needs to teach him a lesson, and we're going to do it.

00:19:41.270 --> 00:19:43.826
How many first sergeants do you know that were attacked?

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I know zero, because it's this Soldiers doing this and I think even the average American Now at the same time, like who got shot at twice here in the last election.

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I don't know.

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I don't know my man.

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Regardless.

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Yeah, and the dictatorial leader, and there's a lot, but it also goes back to the country Fascists are.

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The fascist leader gets his power from the homeland.

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I am America itself.

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I am Germany.

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I'm glad you brought that up Just this week.

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Just this week, a senator pushed forward a bill in the House to consolidate the I mean not a senator, a House rep push, push, try to push forward a bill to consolidate.

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That's got your tin hat on.

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Sorry, that's got your tin hat on.

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Doesn't post it.

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That's got your tin hat.

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I don't know if it came in the house, but it definitely didn't hit his ear what he was shot at, but it didn't hit his ear.

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I've seen the video zoomed in where you literally see the hole punch up here Look at his ear.

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His ear is completely regenerated.

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It's completely regenerated.

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Get the fuck out of here you know how many it's cartilage.

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It's cartilage get the.

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You know how many it's cartilage stop, stop the bush.

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Okay, it's easy.

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Stop stop stop, stop, stop.

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That man did not get shot in the ear.

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We're not gonna, we're not gonna do that.

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That man did not get shot.

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He was shot at.

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He may have been shot at, but he was not hitting the ear.

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He was not 190 yards, not at 190 yards with a rifle.

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And the only thing he got was a wrench.

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I think you're absolutely wrong.

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I 100% think you're wrong.

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It is not the first time.

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It is not the first time.

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All right, we have to move on, all right.

00:21:41.377 --> 00:21:45.136
So second thing we're talking about is measles.

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Right, measles is the second thing we're talking about, and it's this recent update or outbreak Do?

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you have the video, yeah.

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I'm gonna get it queued up right now.

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I saw this.

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So, while you're setting this up, my sister has been in Comunicado for a while.

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She texted me and say hey, here's my number, here's my new phone.

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Don't share it with other people.

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Blah, blah, blah Right.

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And, by the way, do you have a news source that I can use that is legitimate for the army, something that's fair for the military?

00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:35.182
And I was like no, I don't know of any any down the center, but the reason I say that is I have found that probably the best source of getting information and news is just Twitter, is X, because you have such a wide range.

00:22:35.182 --> 00:22:37.423
I have such a wide range.

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That makes a lot of sense.

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Well, what I'm saying is, though I get it from dude, I get some far left loony bins and I get some far right crazy kins.

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And so I get everything in the middle.

00:22:52.714 --> 00:22:58.367
So what I'm saying is when news comes up and I see stuff, I'm able to go oh okay, that's interesting.

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That's the funny thing about this clip is I've seen this.

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I know I grew up on the Brady bunch, right, it was all in syndication and I knew all all this stuff.

00:23:07.364 --> 00:23:22.955
So it's just interesting that, and you know, just because I'm on X doesn't mean you know I say that with the smiley faces I read I have a subscription to the New York Times, to the Washington Post I get.

00:23:22.955 --> 00:23:28.798
I'm on Drudge, so I get all the stuff I'm not sitting, I could tell you.

00:23:28.817 --> 00:23:32.584
The funny thing about all this is I don't go to Fox News.

00:23:32.584 --> 00:23:35.288
Like I'm not on Fox News, I don't watch Fox News.

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I don't go to foxnewscom.

00:23:37.478 --> 00:23:43.067
The only way I see something on Fox News is if it pops up through Drudge.

00:23:43.067 --> 00:23:47.286
Once in a while I guess I could see something on X, but rarely.

00:23:47.286 --> 00:23:50.997
Most of the time it's more local newspapers, which I really appreciate.

00:23:50.997 --> 00:23:53.001
I love local newspapers.

00:23:53.001 --> 00:23:55.948
A lot of Substack, Substack's great.

00:23:55.948 --> 00:23:57.236
I'm amazed.

00:23:57.236 --> 00:23:59.922
Greg Easterbrook man I love reading.

00:23:59.922 --> 00:24:01.946
Shout out to Greg Easterbrook.

00:24:01.946 --> 00:24:07.443
If you don't subscribe to Greg Easterbrook on Substack for $5 a month, you are missing out.

00:24:07.443 --> 00:24:10.435
We need to get greg on again, because just every week.

00:24:10.435 --> 00:24:19.482
I don't always agree with him, but every week there's something that makes me, makes me think, think about, and it's great.

00:24:19.482 --> 00:24:21.186
So hopefully we're doing that's the same for you.

00:24:21.186 --> 00:24:26.878
But measles, here we go, here we go what are you doing?

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all from school.

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They sent me home.

00:24:29.941 --> 00:24:30.441
Measles.

00:24:30.441 --> 00:24:34.784
See, their measles are a strange case of red freckles you have got a temperature.

00:24:35.104 --> 00:24:37.306
They told me 101.1.

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What's the record?

00:24:38.467 --> 00:24:39.768
Never mind.

00:24:39.807 --> 00:24:40.948
Are you sure it's the measles?

00:24:41.469 --> 00:24:45.872
Well, he's certainly got all the symptoms A slight temperature, a lot of dots and a great big smile.

00:24:46.352 --> 00:24:47.192
A great big smile.

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No school for a few days.

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Say hello to my dotted son for me.

00:24:50.394 --> 00:24:52.582
Tell him I'll bring him some comic books and I'll see you later, dear.

00:24:52.823 --> 00:24:56.977
Okay, honey, bye Boy.

00:24:56.977 --> 00:24:58.563
This is the life, isn't it?

00:24:58.563 --> 00:25:01.698
Yeah, if you have to get sick, you sure can't beat the measles.

00:25:01.698 --> 00:25:02.559
That's right.

00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:04.484
No medicine, inside or out.

00:25:04.484 --> 00:25:11.578
Like shots in me, don like shots on me.

00:25:11.578 --> 00:25:12.180
Don't even mention shots.

00:25:12.180 --> 00:25:13.001
Yes, measles, measles, measles.

00:25:13.001 --> 00:25:15.528
Well, all the kids have now had the measles.

00:25:15.654 --> 00:25:16.679
So have I.

00:25:16.679 --> 00:25:17.361
I had them years ago.

00:25:17.762 --> 00:25:19.519
Looks like the Bradys are finished with the measles.

00:25:19.539 --> 00:25:45.088
Hold it, you're not through yet, alice, don't tell me you're coming down with the measles, Wah-wah.

00:25:45.128 --> 00:25:46.750
How have they been vaccinated?

00:25:46.750 --> 00:25:49.672
These moms never vaccinated their kids and lied about it.

00:25:49.672 --> 00:25:51.513
Vaccines are harmful.

00:25:51.513 --> 00:25:54.682
You are endangering the health of every child in here.

00:25:54.682 --> 00:25:56.967
What are you doing?

00:25:56.967 --> 00:26:00.465
All from school they sent me measles.

00:26:00.974 --> 00:26:03.444
See, their measles are a strange piece of measles.

00:26:03.444 --> 00:26:09.003
I want to see SUV go in and bust in on Carol Brady.

00:26:09.003 --> 00:26:11.638
Why haven't you done that?

00:26:11.638 --> 00:26:12.942
What's wrong with you?

00:26:12.942 --> 00:26:14.946
Why haven't you vaccinated your kids?

00:26:16.815 --> 00:26:19.181
So Go ahead.

00:26:19.181 --> 00:26:21.547
My esteemed colleague, this is your thing.

00:26:21.547 --> 00:26:25.566
I am definitely pro vaccination, but I will let you know.

00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:31.448
No, I'm absolutely pro-vaccine as well, right?

00:26:31.448 --> 00:26:44.287
I do think it's funny, though, that when you're talking about some of these diseases that, yeah, for us it used to be and this is not to say again that you shouldn't have your kids get the MMR Absolutely fine.

00:26:44.287 --> 00:26:56.707
When people say there's what's in the mercury, when people say there's what's in the mercury, oh, there's active mercury in the vaccines, no, there isn't, it's methyl.

00:26:56.707 --> 00:27:00.290
I think it's called methylmercury, ethylmercury, something like that.

00:27:00.290 --> 00:27:04.949
It's not toxic.

00:27:04.949 --> 00:27:08.477
I do question.

00:27:08.477 --> 00:27:14.903
I've had this question and with our oldest oldest we thought about this when you go in now and you get all these shots in kids, it's what?

00:27:14.903 --> 00:27:22.719
73 different shots before they're five, or something like that, or 73 not shot, but um, vaccines.

00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:25.102
We actually spread ours out.

00:27:25.102 --> 00:27:39.576
We did it where we were on a cycle where it was much more spread out and we didn't see a difference as far as her health goes versus our other kids, because it was one of those trial things that we tried.

00:27:39.576 --> 00:27:52.480
But it's the media part of it, right, everything has to be now so over the top and, oh my gosh, the measles.

00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:53.664
We got to clean everything.

00:27:53.664 --> 00:28:09.382
It's the post-COVID that the lessons of COVID haven't been learned and again, this is not to say that everything that came out of COVID was bad, like the one thing people have forgotten.

00:28:09.382 --> 00:28:12.167
The best thing that came out of COVID is hey, wash your hands.

00:28:12.167 --> 00:28:19.221
You should be washing your hands three or four times a day and I still see people coming out of the latrine without washing their hands.

00:28:19.221 --> 00:28:20.023
It blows me away.

00:28:21.086 --> 00:28:25.377
And so yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, and it's just crazy.

00:28:25.377 --> 00:28:34.849
I used to laugh because the most common people I saw coming out of the latrines back in the day were the officers and I just was like, are you kidding?

00:28:34.849 --> 00:28:38.974
I think I've told you this story.

00:28:38.974 --> 00:28:41.098
I was in the latrine.

00:28:41.098 --> 00:28:43.644
This was now, oh gosh, probably 12 years ago.

00:28:43.644 --> 00:28:48.203
I was a senior NCO Little reserve unit in Jasper, alabama.

00:28:48.203 --> 00:28:55.482
There were two units in this building and the other unit was having their drill weekend.

00:28:55.915 --> 00:29:05.443
I'm in the latrine finishing up the urinal and a guy comes out of the stall.

00:29:05.443 --> 00:29:08.980
I finish washing my hands.

00:29:08.980 --> 00:29:12.320
He comes out of the stall and goes right out and I follow him.

00:29:12.320 --> 00:29:16.125
I'm literally my hands just wash, my hands, walk out.

00:29:16.125 --> 00:29:19.839
I'm like catch the door, because he just opened the door with those hands.

00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:24.362
So I'm like catch the door and I walk out, walk down the hallway and run.

00:29:24.362 --> 00:29:31.179
So about five seconds down the hallway I say hey, soldier, and he turns around and says yeah, you didn't wash your hands.

00:29:31.179 --> 00:29:36.163
He goes well, I used hand sanitizer.

00:29:36.163 --> 00:29:37.743
Oh, you didn't.

00:29:37.743 --> 00:29:39.605
Yeah, you didn't see me do it.

00:29:39.605 --> 00:29:41.247
I was like in the hallway.

00:29:41.247 --> 00:29:44.068
He goes yeah, I said no, I've been right behind you.

00:29:44.068 --> 00:29:47.112
Get your ass back in there and wash your hands.

00:29:47.152 --> 00:29:48.053
I think he was an E-5.

00:29:48.053 --> 00:29:51.618
And again, I was an E7.

00:29:51.618 --> 00:29:53.482
So his, his, uh, ua, the unit administrator.

00:29:53.482 --> 00:29:55.026
Right, the unit administrator comes in.

00:29:55.026 --> 00:29:55.708
He's an E8.

00:29:55.708 --> 00:29:57.523
And we're we're friends and he comes in.

00:29:57.523 --> 00:29:59.112
Hey, can I talk to you for a second?

00:29:59.112 --> 00:30:00.494
We kick the guy that shut the door.

00:30:00.494 --> 00:30:03.676
He's like, hey, uh, that was kind of disrespectful.

00:30:03.676 --> 00:30:05.438
We, it's into my, into my son.

00:30:05.438 --> 00:30:07.298
I said, oh no, it isn't.

00:30:07.298 --> 00:30:08.638
He goes what.

00:30:08.638 --> 00:30:10.359
You shouldn't have said that in front of everybody.

00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:16.642
It's like, look, if he had said oh sorry and turned around and went back, I wouldn't have said anything about it.

00:30:16.642 --> 00:30:27.826
That dude came out of the latrine, out of the stall, without washing his hands, touched the door and then lied to my face about it.

00:30:27.826 --> 00:30:30.189
So did I call him out at that point?

00:30:30.189 --> 00:30:32.469
Yeah, and I'll do it again.

00:30:32.469 --> 00:30:40.113
If you want to have a formation right now for me to apologize, I will come out and apologize that I wasn't bigger than that.

00:30:40.833 --> 00:30:41.794
Making it a bigger deal.

00:30:43.135 --> 00:30:44.678
That's a big deal.

00:30:44.678 --> 00:30:46.220
So this measles stuff.

00:30:46.220 --> 00:30:48.442
I really think it's just.

00:30:48.442 --> 00:30:54.810
It's very interesting because the politics are getting in the way of it.

00:30:54.810 --> 00:31:01.710
Right, the, the Trump administration was the one who came up with the vaccine for COVID.

00:31:01.710 --> 00:31:08.544
Right, which pretty clearly does not work the way it was intended or the way it was sold.

00:31:08.544 --> 00:31:14.577
All right, so let's just let's call it, let's be fair about that, right.

00:31:14.577 --> 00:31:28.837
And the funny thing is, if you remember when that was being pushed, all the Democrats I'm never taking anything, I'm not taking that shot Right, and then Joe Biden won and suddenly it was oh, we have to take the top, we have to take.

00:31:28.837 --> 00:31:31.786
Now, I don't know what the switch was.

00:31:31.786 --> 00:31:41.180
I think it has something to do with a certain I don't know billionaire who had a lot of pharmacy in his portfolio, maybe a couple, but that got pushed.

00:31:41.180 --> 00:31:48.861
And now we have this pendulum in America, right, and it goes back and forth.

00:31:48.954 --> 00:31:59.868
And now we have RFK Jr who says, well, the pendulum swung so far here on everything.

00:31:59.868 --> 00:32:02.739
Okay, I love my wife.

00:32:02.739 --> 00:32:03.643
I have told her this.

00:32:03.643 --> 00:32:09.948
When my kids have something going on something like my son his foot's kind of hurting.

00:32:09.948 --> 00:32:12.564
He's got a blister.

00:32:12.564 --> 00:32:13.720
We thought it was a callus.

00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:16.803
It's a blister on the ball of his foot because he's playing lacrosse and he's playing soccer.

00:32:16.803 --> 00:32:18.067
He's just all the time he cleats.

00:32:18.067 --> 00:32:21.755
As you know, soccer cleats have almost no padding, right.

00:32:21.755 --> 00:32:22.778
So it's really been bothering him.

00:32:23.275 --> 00:32:26.238
And my wife was like it's vitamin deficiency.

00:32:26.238 --> 00:32:28.099
Like you know, he's not eating enough of good food.

00:32:28.099 --> 00:32:28.519
Okay, cool.

00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:33.224
And then my younger daughter, she's been sick and it's vitamin deficiency.

00:32:33.224 --> 00:32:36.208
I was like hey, yeah, yeah, you're right, they probably don't eat enough.

00:32:36.208 --> 00:32:37.608
They don't, they're not doing a good job.

00:32:37.608 --> 00:32:40.771
We go outside and the dog goes up the hill and he eats the grass.

00:32:40.771 --> 00:32:49.531
My dog is, since we've got him it's a vitamin deficiency.

00:32:49.771 --> 00:33:07.683
And I just I looked at her and said not everything is a vitamin deficiency, like I don't mean to be mean, but it's kind of like it can't always, that can't always be the answer right, because my I'm probably vitamin deficient as well, but I do pretty well, I'm for a 52 year old.

00:33:07.683 --> 00:33:08.507
I'm 52, but I do pretty well.

00:33:08.507 --> 00:33:09.691
I'm for a 52 year old.

00:33:09.691 --> 00:33:11.958
52, I think I do pretty well.

00:33:11.958 --> 00:33:20.462
Uh, so it's, it's just funny because, you know, when you look at these things and and again, this is, I think it's genetics.

00:33:21.084 --> 00:33:27.102
I think we really miss a boat on genetics because, um, my mother-in-law passed away now a few years ago.

00:33:27.102 --> 00:33:39.563
She had breast cancer and then she rang the bell and and, uh, that weekend she, she had a different episode and turned out she had brain, new brain cancer and it killed her within two months.

00:33:39.563 --> 00:33:44.221
Yeah, so she even rang the bell, cancer-free, and then within two months she was dead from brain cancer.

00:33:44.221 --> 00:33:46.788
Uh, and this woman she was.

00:33:46.788 --> 00:33:50.144
She worked for a chiropractor, she took all the supplements.

00:33:50.144 --> 00:34:01.371
She said you know, white bread is, I'm trying to remember, but it's, if you're dead, if you eat white bread, something you know, one of those little things.

00:34:02.174 --> 00:34:10.103
And so she was incredibly healthy as far as how she ate and things, and she died at 60 or 60 from from cancer.

00:34:10.103 --> 00:34:17.338
So I think that we we are overreacting with the measles.

00:34:17.338 --> 00:34:21.110
I think that we are overreacting in a lot of ways.

00:34:21.110 --> 00:34:38.481
Instead of having what's the way to put it, instead of having a joe rogan conversation because we both know joe rogan listens to people and he can be swayed by who he's talking to, right, joe could have a RFK junior on and be like, oh, vaccines are going to kill you.

00:34:38.481 --> 00:34:48.798
And then the next week he could have something on that is a who, what kind of doctor makes vaccines and vaccination, or there's, there's word for it that I'm blanking on.

00:34:49.619 --> 00:34:53.503
But he could have somebody else come on and be like no, this is really, this is how the science is.

00:34:53.503 --> 00:34:59.791
And Joe would be like, oh, that's great, you know, because Joe doesn't really push back, because Joe's very much a I don't know.

00:35:01.614 --> 00:35:02.697
Hey, I'm willing to listen to both sides.

00:35:02.697 --> 00:35:05.882
If you got facts and I can verify them, then I'm cool with it.

00:35:05.882 --> 00:35:08.887
That's one thing I've been talking about.

00:35:08.887 --> 00:35:09.648
He's great about it.

00:35:12.855 --> 00:35:20.835
Yeah, but unfortunately he weathervanes quite a bit based on who's in front of him, how convincing they are, and I think that's true of everybody, that's not just Joe.

00:35:20.835 --> 00:35:27.538
I think if we have somebody here who has more knowledge than we do on a subject, we are much more likely to listen.

00:35:27.538 --> 00:35:28.601
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that's really.

00:35:28.601 --> 00:35:32.425
And then if we had somebody that had a disagreeing would go oh, wait a minute.

00:35:32.425 --> 00:35:33.891
Oh yeah, yeah, um.

00:35:33.891 --> 00:35:43.429
So that's nothing against joe rogan at all, yeah, but I just think that we're we're in that, and this goes for the whole politics situation we're in right now, let alone rfk juniors, measles.

00:35:43.429 --> 00:35:45.615
We're just in that adjustment period.

00:35:45.615 --> 00:36:05.085
We're in that the pendulum swung, um on the biden for the last four years, swung whatever way you want to call it, right, left, up, down, and the and the the administration that's in charge now wants it to swing back the other way, and this is where I get worried.

00:36:06.708 --> 00:36:09.784
Instead of, you've been to an amusement park.

00:36:09.784 --> 00:36:11.177
They all have them.

00:36:11.177 --> 00:36:13.541
The big boat ride, right, yep, right.

00:36:13.541 --> 00:36:18.320
Never liked that ride.

00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.286
I think I've ridden it one time.

00:36:20.286 --> 00:36:21.476
Didn't like it.

00:36:21.476 --> 00:36:29.846
That is not the ride for me, and there's people that like to be on the edges, so that when it goes they're not just up.

00:36:29.865 --> 00:36:39.282
they're not just up, they're a little bit upside down looking down, I don't get it right, but that's where they have fun and I think some people are having fun with this.

00:36:41.315 --> 00:36:43.202
I personally- I like to see it.

00:36:43.202 --> 00:36:43.844
Hey, you know what?

00:36:43.844 --> 00:36:49.721
If it's a nice simple shift back and forth, cool, we're going to get that, naturally.

00:36:49.721 --> 00:37:04.864
But over the last couple of decades we've got to the point where everything has been so big and so back and forth, right, but that there's who who develops, and maybe you'll check it while we're doing this.

00:37:04.864 --> 00:37:10.018
What type of doctor develops vaccines and specifically deals with vaccination?

00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:14.768
I don't know the director of the CDC.

00:37:14.768 --> 00:37:25.407
He was a highly regarded scientist in these matters and he decided to resign.

00:37:29.943 --> 00:37:30.364
It was crazy.

00:37:30.364 --> 00:37:31.838
Fair enough.

00:37:31.838 --> 00:37:45.521
But let me ask you this how much, with what has come out now and what we now know about COVID at all, how much do you trust what Fauci was saying?

00:37:45.521 --> 00:37:47.699
Virologist yes, thank you.

00:37:47.699 --> 00:37:48.443
Thank you, pat.

00:37:48.443 --> 00:37:52.659
Well, that's a virologist.

00:37:52.659 --> 00:37:55.445
It's viral, but is that what it's called for?

00:37:55.445 --> 00:37:55.947
Somebody?

00:37:55.947 --> 00:37:57.009
Who has immunizations.

00:37:57.494 --> 00:37:58.137
Hold on a sec.

00:37:58.137 --> 00:38:06.188
I got you right here, hold on, so we're going to specializes in vaccines and immunologists.

00:38:06.188 --> 00:38:07.007
So let me see if.

00:38:06.764 --> 00:38:06.557
I can get that.

00:38:07.563 --> 00:38:08.547
And immunologists.

00:38:08.567 --> 00:38:08.969
That's so bold.

00:38:09.556 --> 00:38:10.835
Let me see if I can get that.

00:38:10.835 --> 00:38:17.179
Vaccinologists Okay, all right, so no, that seems too simple.

00:38:17.179 --> 00:38:19.702
But see, here's the thing I don't trust Fauci.

00:38:19.702 --> 00:38:24.987
Right, I didn't trust Fauci and had it not been mandated, I probably wouldn't have gotten the shot.

00:38:24.987 --> 00:38:38.260
Like I said, my kids didn't get the shot, but with my wife not being military, and you know, they've stuck us with God knows only what for the last 20 something years.

00:38:38.260 --> 00:38:40.228
You know one more shot wasn't going to kill us, or one gun kill us any faster.

00:38:40.228 --> 00:38:43.938
So at the end of the day, it for me it comes down to a personal decision.

00:38:43.998 --> 00:38:49.623
Now, where I have an issue with is having the right people in the right positions to make informed decisions.

00:38:49.623 --> 00:39:06.418
What we have now is a director of human health services who says absolutely lunatic level stuff like oh, black people don't need immune, don't need immunizations because their DNA and their bone density is different, so they're fine.

00:39:06.418 --> 00:39:14.030
Or you know he'll say something to the effect of oh no, it's no different.

00:39:14.030 --> 00:39:16.260
Getting measles is no different than catching a cold.

00:39:16.260 --> 00:39:18.606
Everybody should go out and get measles.

00:39:20.474 --> 00:39:38.969
Probably not the best advice, man, but that's what you get when you put people who don't know any better and who don't want to listen to those in charge, and if you have a different opinion than the person in charge, instead of listening or at least respectfully disagreeing, you fire them.

00:39:38.969 --> 00:39:46.027
And that's one of my biggest pet peeves, in addition to you know my rate of others with this administration.

00:39:46.027 --> 00:39:48.963
That's one of the biggest pet peeves I got with this administration.

00:39:48.963 --> 00:39:52.014
Others with this administration that's one of the biggest pet peeves I got with this administration.

00:39:52.014 --> 00:39:57.677
Not only do you not have people who don't know, they ask from their appetite excuse my language in this administration, they're not willing to listen to the experts.

00:39:57.677 --> 00:40:00.545
Instead of listening to the experts, they'd rather just fire them.

00:40:00.545 --> 00:40:05.476
That kind of question all in itself has issues.

00:40:05.858 --> 00:40:10.681
Let me ask you a question what kills more, the flu or the measles?

00:40:10.681 --> 00:40:12.199
What has a higher death rate?

00:40:13.155 --> 00:40:15.001
When You're talking about mortality rate.

00:40:16.123 --> 00:40:16.746
Mortality rate.

00:40:17.940 --> 00:40:19.155
Over the last 20 years.

00:40:19.155 --> 00:40:21.945
I'd probably say the flu, I'd probably say the flu.

00:40:22.780 --> 00:40:31.306
Just in general, if you catch the measles, or if you catch the flu because if you have the vaccine you're not going to get the measles, but if you have the measles, what's the death rate?

00:40:31.306 --> 00:40:36.222
What, excuse me, what's the mortality rate?

00:40:37.867 --> 00:40:44.820
If you're unvaccinated and you get measles, versus if you don't get the flu shot and you get the flu, which one's more likely to kill you?

00:40:44.820 --> 00:40:45.784
Is that what you're asking?

00:40:47.275 --> 00:40:50.164
Well, regardless you, if you get the flu or you get, okay.

00:40:50.644 --> 00:40:51.795
So the mortality rate.

00:40:52.016 --> 00:40:59.987
The mortality rate for measles is one to two per ten thousand.

00:40:59.987 --> 00:41:08.666
That's point zero, one percent to point zero, two percent, okay, one or two for ten thousand.

00:41:08.666 --> 00:41:20.969
For the flu, the mortality rate for 65, now overall I and I can't see everybody because it doesn't have breaking down for everybody.

00:41:20.969 --> 00:41:24.034
You know how measles is for kids and blues for older.

00:41:24.175 --> 00:41:26.422
That's what I was going to say.

00:41:26.422 --> 00:41:37.344
With the flu, the mortality rate is different because the older you get, the more susceptible you are to not be able to fight at all, whereas with the measles, the older you get, you know, the older you get.

00:41:37.344 --> 00:41:46.126
Like if you're, if you're a six month old baby or a six week old baby, it's going to be more difficult for you to survive the measles as opposed to being a 13, 14 year old kid.

00:41:49.876 --> 00:41:51.818
So seasonal influence.

00:41:51.818 --> 00:42:00.670
The estimated overall mortality rate linked to influenza is 13.8 deaths per 100,000 people each year.

00:42:00.670 --> 00:42:03.543
So cut that down to 10,000.

00:42:03.543 --> 00:42:05.802
That makes it 1.38.

00:42:05.802 --> 00:42:09.402
1.38 per 10,000.

00:42:09.402 --> 00:42:12.028
Right, Measles is 1 to38 per 10,000.

00:42:12.028 --> 00:42:13.940
Measles is 1 to 2 per 10,000.

00:42:13.940 --> 00:42:16.463
So it's almost the same.

00:42:17.255 --> 00:42:21.764
Yeah, but it's not though, because the measles doesn't mutate.

00:42:21.764 --> 00:42:26.463
The flu changes every season, so the flu is constantly mutating.

00:42:26.463 --> 00:42:32.184
The measles has been the same, and we got to keep in mind that the measles was essentially eradicated.

00:42:32.184 --> 00:42:37.445
Matter of fact, I think they declared it eradicated a couple of years ago, so it was done?

00:42:38.126 --> 00:42:39.007
I don't, I don't think so.

00:42:39.007 --> 00:42:41.322
Measles has always been one that's kind of still popped up.

00:42:41.422 --> 00:42:47.378
No, no, they did, but I think the U S declared it, declared it as done in like 2020 or something like that.

00:42:47.659 --> 00:42:51.402
Well, they've also declared polio to be gone and smallpox to be gone.

00:42:51.422 --> 00:42:56.847
Well, yeah, but I mean again, you got to add advice at behest of the HHS.

00:42:56.847 --> 00:43:00.431
If these people keep listening to them, we may see it.

00:43:00.431 --> 00:43:02.311
I mean, polio is cool man, it's retro.

00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:06.222
We should bring that back.

00:43:11.380 --> 00:43:13.054
I'm not against vaccines.

00:43:14.097 --> 00:43:22.967
That said, I think the debate is more about, because this is what you said and I agree with this.

00:43:22.967 --> 00:43:28.018
For the record, I am 100% with you.

00:43:28.018 --> 00:43:35.947
If the COVID shot hadn't been mandated, I wouldn't have gotten it, and my kids and my wife didn't get it.

00:43:36.266 --> 00:43:39.590
Now your wife is different because she's you know right.

00:43:39.590 --> 00:43:40.331
I'm with you.

00:43:40.331 --> 00:43:47.206
And one of the reasons I didn't get it was because I think, as kids, the death rate like early on I was following this going.

00:43:47.206 --> 00:43:48.369
Why are?

00:43:48.369 --> 00:43:51.284
Why is anybody under 50 even getting this shot?

00:43:51.284 --> 00:43:55.266
I don't need it if you're under 50, unless you're morbidly obese.

00:43:55.266 --> 00:44:17.684
And so that's where I was going and I think the argument here because I've never heard and maybe I'm wrong, maybe you haven't, please correct me I have never heard RFK Jr or anybody in the federal government say don't get the, don't get the polio shot, do not get the measles shot, do not get these vaccines.

00:44:17.684 --> 00:44:20.903
What I've heard is look, you're the parent.

00:44:20.903 --> 00:44:27.788
This is, this is between you and it, ironically, it's the abortion argument.

00:44:27.788 --> 00:44:37.146
This should be between you and your doctor, you and your family, what you want to do you know that's, that's that crazy, but that's that crazy, gotcha, gotcha, right.

00:44:37.235 --> 00:44:40.503
So you'll, you'll, you'll hear, you'll hear the official statement.

00:44:40.503 --> 00:44:42.447
I can't tell you what to do.

00:44:42.447 --> 00:44:51.492
You should seek the doctor's advice, right, and that's the official statement of the HHS, right, right, and that's the official statement of the HHS, right.

00:44:51.492 --> 00:45:03.706
But then you'll have all these supplemental interviews where you got RFK Jr saying off the wall, off the wall, like, oh, measles gives you radiation poison, or vaccines give you radiation poison, or you know saying something crazy.

00:45:03.706 --> 00:45:06.230
So which part do I believe?

00:45:06.230 --> 00:45:07.010
Am I supposed to believe?

00:45:07.010 --> 00:45:23.155
If I'm listening, but what I'm saying, if I'm already, if I'm already cynical of the government, right, and the government says and his official post says hey, check with your doctor, wink, wink Before you get, before you get the vaccine, to make sure you make an informed decision.

00:45:23.155 --> 00:45:25.077
Right, so that's what he says officially.

00:45:25.077 --> 00:45:29.543
But then I see all these other interviews where he's talking about oh, vaccines.

00:45:29.543 --> 00:45:33.771
Vaccines, you know, cause all the clouds to piss out silver.

00:45:33.771 --> 00:45:35.237
So stay away from you.

00:45:35.237 --> 00:45:39.045
Know that just outlandish crazy stuff that he does, that he's prone to say.

00:45:39.045 --> 00:45:41.148
Which am I more prone to believe?

00:45:41.148 --> 00:45:41.534
Am I?

00:45:41.534 --> 00:45:53.971
Am I going to sit back and say, well, do I believe him in a more relaxed setting, where he looks more trustworthy and comfortable, or do I believe him in an uncomfortable official capacity, when I already don't believe or trust the government?

00:45:53.971 --> 00:45:58.382
Where am I likely to fall in that believability rate?

00:45:58.382 --> 00:46:10.255
And that's where I think we have an issue, because too many people are smart enough to know that they don't know, but they're not smart enough to decipher what information is best.

00:46:10.255 --> 00:46:14.842
Right, because RFK has his kids vaccinated.

00:46:14.842 --> 00:46:17.766
Rfk Jr is vaccinated.

00:46:17.766 --> 00:46:22.137
Right, everybody in his circle is vaccinated.

00:46:22.197 --> 00:46:25.686
And here's where I draw the line right, what you do with you and your family.

00:46:25.686 --> 00:46:28.559
If you don't want to get a single vaccination, hell.

00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:32.327
If you don't ever want to go to the doctor in your life, that's on you.

00:46:32.327 --> 00:46:40.824
Where it becomes an issue is if I have a newborn kid in a public place who's too young to get the vaccine.

00:46:40.824 --> 00:46:44.356
You have, then, taken my choice out of my hand, right?

00:46:44.356 --> 00:46:54.719
So now you have infringed I've made this exact argument yes, you've infringed on my right to make the decision for me and my family, and that is not allowed.

00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:55.019
Right?

00:46:55.019 --> 00:46:57.547
So I'm cool with what you do.

00:46:57.547 --> 00:46:59.661
If that's what you choose to do, then you have to.

00:46:59.661 --> 00:47:14.135
You know you have to make that choice, then what we can't, what, what you should do and that goes back to our, our people, inherently good conversation, because they're not those people who are unvaccinated and had the measles, they still sent their kids to fucking school.

00:47:15.543 --> 00:47:21.621
Okay, so that's where the catch is right, Because here hold on, but not even school.

00:47:22.614 --> 00:47:24.603
They send them to public places as well too.

00:47:26.088 --> 00:47:26.594
I'm with you.

00:47:26.594 --> 00:47:28.081
On the 12-month zone.

00:47:28.081 --> 00:47:35.523
Again, I have made that exact argument with you or not with you, but I've made that exact argument.

00:47:35.523 --> 00:47:49.157
Look, if you're unvaccinated and I'm at the park and your kid's at the park and he's six and my kid's under 12, and can't get under 12 months and can't get the vaccine, and your kid isn't vaccinated and is now a carrier, my kid's the vaccine.

00:47:49.157 --> 00:47:50.519
And your kid isn't vaccinated and is now a carrier, my kids are.

00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:51.862
I've made that exact yeah, absolutely OK.

00:47:51.862 --> 00:47:57.429
So then the other side is because even the Democrats will say hey, this is between you.

00:47:57.429 --> 00:48:04.278
We think you should absolutely get the vaccine, but it's still between you and your and your doctors.

00:48:04.278 --> 00:48:07.224
But here's, here's where to me the other side of the distrust is to me.

00:48:07.244 --> 00:48:18.858
The other side of the distrust is yep, it's between you and your doctor, but we've set up so that you can't go to this school.

00:48:18.858 --> 00:48:20.663
You can't be in school if you don't have the vaccine right Now.

00:48:20.663 --> 00:48:28.358
Here's where the argument and this was the COVID argument which was you have to get the vaccine because I'm unsafe.

00:48:28.358 --> 00:48:31.601
Wait a minute, you got the vaccine right.

00:48:31.601 --> 00:48:33.842
Yes, so you're protected.

00:48:33.842 --> 00:48:38.746
Yes, so if I don't get the COVID vaccine, how does that affect you?

00:48:38.746 --> 00:48:53.315
Like, you're telling me that you have your pants on and your pants are protecting you, right, but if I urinate on myself, you're going to get, you're going to get pee all over you.

00:48:53.315 --> 00:48:54.880
Wait, what?

00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:59.297
How does how does that work If we're both wearing pants but I choose to urinate on myself?

00:48:59.297 --> 00:49:00.219
That doesn't affect you.

00:49:00.820 --> 00:49:03.728
Cool, allow me to bust that theory up for you.

00:49:03.728 --> 00:49:05.597
So here's the thing, right?

00:49:05.597 --> 00:49:06.780
So here's the thing.

00:49:06.780 --> 00:49:09.204
It's not about the children, I'm talking only about urine.

00:49:09.326 --> 00:49:11.009
I got you Not airborne.

00:49:12.896 --> 00:49:13.559
It's not about.

00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:15.922
There's an efficacy rate.

00:49:15.922 --> 00:49:17.969
We know you get the shot of the vaccine.

00:49:17.969 --> 00:49:22.641
It's 90% and it's good up until, let's say, 18, 25 years old.

00:49:22.641 --> 00:49:26.382
Don't you get a booster in your teens?

00:49:26.382 --> 00:49:30.518
I think so, Like at 12 or whatever.

00:49:30.518 --> 00:49:30.778
Right.

00:49:30.778 --> 00:49:32.302
So I'll give you 30.

00:49:32.302 --> 00:49:33.467
Right, 30.

00:49:33.467 --> 00:49:35.701
So what's the average age of our teachers?

00:49:35.701 --> 00:49:37.186
Take a wild guess.

00:49:39.074 --> 00:49:40.699
Average Twenty six.

00:49:40.699 --> 00:49:42.405
No, not even close.

00:49:43.235 --> 00:49:43.677
Really older.

00:49:43.677 --> 00:49:55.186
Yes, yes, forty two, forty two, because young people, young people aren't getting paid enough to put up with the kids BS, and the people who've been teaching have been teaching so long that they don't want to do anything else.

00:49:55.186 --> 00:49:57.702
So you have an older, you have an older pop.

00:49:57.702 --> 00:50:02.143
So it's not just about the student, and that's where, that's where these issues tend to get isolated.

00:50:02.143 --> 00:50:05.342
Right, they'll say, oh well, if you're vaccinated, then there should be no issue.

00:50:05.342 --> 00:50:06.407
Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:50:06.407 --> 00:50:12.396
However, comma, there should be no issue.

00:50:12.396 --> 00:50:12.998
Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:50:12.998 --> 00:50:13.760
However, comma, there has to be some.

00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:14.744
There has to be a case for public safety.

00:50:14.744 --> 00:50:15.666
Right, we can't risk.

00:50:15.666 --> 00:50:30.266
We can't risk putting people who are, who are higher risk, at good because you chose not to, because that at that point, you've taken the choice out of everybody else's hand for selfish reasons, that's again, I am all.

00:50:30.286 --> 00:50:31.597
This is devil's advocate.

00:50:31.597 --> 00:50:32.539
Is all I'm doing?

00:50:32.539 --> 00:50:33.322
Yeah, I'm with you.

00:50:33.322 --> 00:50:37.923
So you're arguing for the mandatory.

00:50:37.923 --> 00:51:01.081
The other side of this, the devil's advocate side of this not my side the devil's advocate side of this is if you're 42 and you're higher risk, then you go get your vaccine and you go get your measles shot and then it doesn't matter if the kids have measles because you're supposed to be covered, right?

00:51:01.101 --> 00:51:02.465
But you can't make that argument.

00:51:02.465 --> 00:51:03.195
How can you?

00:51:03.195 --> 00:51:10.782
How can you tell one person, oh, they have to go get it safe because this person chooses not to get a shot, but you can't tell that person to go get a shot?

00:51:10.782 --> 00:51:15.675
You get what I'm saying, like how can you mandate one side to do something, but you're not willing to mandate the other side?

00:51:16.476 --> 00:51:17.079
That's the point.

00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:17.981
That's the point.

00:51:17.981 --> 00:51:18.824
It shouldn't be mandated.

00:51:18.824 --> 00:51:19.967
That's kind of the argument.

00:51:19.967 --> 00:51:21.559
Should it be mandated or not?

00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.644
I agree, I agree, but I'm saying that you're saying Right.

00:51:44.054 --> 00:51:49.346
So if you're saying the kid has to be has to be vaccinated to get into school, and again, if he chooses to go to a public school where public funds are paying for it, he has to be vaccinated.

00:51:49.155 --> 00:51:49.266
Now there are private schools who have their own rules and he's more than welcome to take those options.

00:51:49.266 --> 00:51:49.565
Why?

00:51:49.565 --> 00:51:52.690
But this is where this is where we get into the meat of the argument.

00:51:52.690 --> 00:51:56.184
You just said, because it's a public school, right?

00:51:56.184 --> 00:52:04.648
Public school meaning they get their funding from local, state, federal, government, right?

00:52:04.648 --> 00:52:10.525
So we're talking about a publicly funded, therefore government institution.

00:52:10.525 --> 00:52:13.469
Sure, government controlled, okay, that's right.

00:52:13.469 --> 00:52:32.277
That's kind of where the argument becomes is if you're already distrustful of the government and you don't believe the government, now again, if the idea is, the vaccine works and even over time it delays, and so you have to get your booster, you have to get a booster shot for tetanus, you have to get.

00:52:32.998 --> 00:52:40.842
I've had a I, I had my uh shingles shot last year because I'm over 50, um, you know.

00:52:40.842 --> 00:52:42.206
So I, I get all the shots.

00:52:42.206 --> 00:52:57.543
The only shot I don't get is the covid one, because I think code one did not get tested well and there's too many, there's too much information out there that makes me think the COVID-1 actually has a higher likelihood for a vaccine injury for me than others.

00:52:57.543 --> 00:52:59.608
Okay, awesome, liberty.

00:52:59.608 --> 00:53:02.041
So, but that's where.

00:53:02.041 --> 00:53:06.661
So, liberty, let me ask you Liberty, I want a response on this and we'll let you know what Liberty says.

00:53:07.375 --> 00:53:09.253
Liberty, did you get the vaccine boosters because you agreed to or because you were told to that you had?

00:53:09.253 --> 00:53:09.623
On this, and we'll let you know what Liberty says.

00:53:09.623 --> 00:53:14.228
Liberty, did you get the vaccine boosters because you agreed to or because you were told to that you had to?

00:53:14.228 --> 00:53:19.061
Because I think that when you're starting to talk about, let's go back to the teachers.

00:53:19.061 --> 00:53:31.530
If the school says to a teacher, hey, you're in your 40s, you're MMR, you haven't had your MMR, first of all, schools don't check the teachers.

00:53:31.530 --> 00:53:36.983
I guarantee you they don't check the teacher shots, they only check the kid shots, right, possibly sure.

00:53:38.135 --> 00:53:39.601
Oh, there's no way they check the teacher.

00:53:39.601 --> 00:53:44.822
You think the teachers union is going to let the teachers have their medical records?

00:53:44.822 --> 00:53:50.175
Seen by an administrator, right, because you agreed to Right, there you go so.

00:53:50.175 --> 00:53:51.922
And seen by an administrator, right, because you agreed to Right, there you go.

00:53:51.922 --> 00:53:53.710
So I have no problem with personal preference.

00:53:53.710 --> 00:53:56.121
I have no problem with any shots.

00:53:56.121 --> 00:54:03.144
As far as the proven vaccines, I think the biggest problem is when the government gets involved with stuff.

00:54:03.144 --> 00:54:08.219
Right, and we can kind of expand this idea.

00:54:08.219 --> 00:54:27.467
And the idea is these vaccines are basically a chemical cocktail, and I don't mean chemical in a bad way, I mean you just have something that makes it possible to give you a shot.

00:54:27.467 --> 00:54:31.420
Smallpox was a chemical, the smallpox vaccine.

00:54:31.420 --> 00:54:38.164
They took it out of somebody's and then they injected you basically with smallpox, with the dead virus from the pus.

00:54:39.097 --> 00:54:40.101
It is a chemical thing.

00:54:42.059 --> 00:54:47.503
It's a chemical process that you're injecting into your body and the government goes this is good, this is what we should do and we're protecting you.

00:54:47.503 --> 00:54:59.059
If there's a vaccine that actually has a high rate of TV and shots, okay, I'm guessing that's by the state, state by state.

00:54:59.059 --> 00:55:00.978
So I don't know, but I'll believe you that.

00:55:00.978 --> 00:55:05.081
So, but you have to have this shot that goes in your body, right?

00:55:05.081 --> 00:55:06.710
And we trust the government.

00:55:06.710 --> 00:55:10.221
We trust the government to say this is good, this is what we're supposed to do, right.

00:55:10.221 --> 00:55:27.478
But the government is so easily manipulated that back in the seventies easily manipulated that back in the 70s, there was a chemical that was developed by I believe it was by dow, and this chemical was proven safe.

00:55:27.478 --> 00:55:38.063
Like kids would be out playing as the clouds of this chemical went through and it would um, it would kill mosquitoes.

00:55:38.063 --> 00:55:41.117
It was the most effective thing that killed mosquitoes DDT.

00:55:41.117 --> 00:55:52.239
Ddt was the most effective way to kill mosquitoes by far, and mosquitoes carry malaria.

00:55:52.239 --> 00:56:00.143
Malaria to this day is still one of the most deadly diseases in the world, especially in the third world.

00:56:00.143 --> 00:56:13.335
There was a woman and I'm blanking on her name who went to Congress and said DDT is bad for you, ddt will kill you and it will kill kids and we have to stop DDT.

00:56:13.335 --> 00:56:15.215
It is the worst thing in the world.

00:56:15.215 --> 00:56:16.438
And she wrote a book.

00:56:16.438 --> 00:56:21.943
It was something deadly spring, I think is what it was called, something like that, right?

00:56:21.943 --> 00:56:31.719
So she wrote this book and there are there are no poison risks of DDT, like there are kids that were running around and there were no ill effects.

00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:39.860
But she was so in her mind and she wrote this book, got in front of Congress, congress went and said, hey, we need an investigation on this.

00:56:39.860 --> 00:56:59.018
They went and did the investigation, like the government did the investigation, the CDC did it and all the powers of the federal government, and they got the report back and the report said perfectly fine, ddt's good, but we need to ban it because what she said in this book it's scary.

00:56:59.018 --> 00:57:00.835
And what if she's right?

00:57:00.835 --> 00:57:05.637
Now we have the science of it, we have all the proof that it's fine.

00:57:05.637 --> 00:57:12.317
So this one woman and again I'm blanking your name she could.

00:57:12.416 --> 00:57:16.804
You could arguably say that she killed more people.

00:57:16.804 --> 00:57:31.610
Arguably say that she killed more people than Hitler, because people in the third world to this day die by the hundreds of thousands every single year, and now it's been almost 60 years, 56 years.

00:57:31.610 --> 00:57:39.021
Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people die every year from malaria, which DDT would have not eradicated.

00:57:39.021 --> 00:57:41.266
Become pretty dark clothes, right?

00:57:41.266 --> 00:57:45.260
So the government, yeah, the government.

00:57:45.260 --> 00:57:53.481
I have a big problem whenever the government says you have to do something, and KJ just posted it Tuskegee, absolutely.

00:57:53.481 --> 00:57:56.539
Hey boys, we want to give you an experiment.

00:57:56.539 --> 00:57:57.371
We want, we want to.

00:57:57.371 --> 00:57:58.876
Just, you know, kj, you go.

00:57:58.876 --> 00:58:01.202
For those that don't know Tuskegee, kj go.

00:58:01.750 --> 00:58:04.436
No, hey, look up the Tuskegee syphilis experiment.

00:58:04.436 --> 00:58:07.163
I'm not in the business educating history, man.

00:58:07.163 --> 00:58:08.271
There is enough.

00:58:08.271 --> 00:58:11.418
Let's just say there is enough evidence to where.

00:58:11.418 --> 00:58:14.043
You don't have to convince me not to trust the government.

00:58:14.043 --> 00:58:19.112
Like I said, I am the most conservative government conspiracist you'll probably ever meet.

00:58:19.112 --> 00:58:20.916
I don't trust the government one bit.

00:58:20.916 --> 00:58:24.735
At the same time, I am a diehard patriot.

00:58:24.735 --> 00:58:26.923
So figure that out on your own.

00:58:26.923 --> 00:58:30.193
Are you ready to get into some controversial stuff for our last 30 minutes?

00:58:31.396 --> 00:58:32.119
Ooh, what do we got?

00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:33.181
I don't know what's coming up.

00:58:34.010 --> 00:58:34.876
You'll see, all right, here we go.

00:58:34.876 --> 00:58:36.407
This is good, we're going to have fun with this one up.

00:58:36.407 --> 00:58:37.112
You'll see, all right, here we go.

00:58:37.112 --> 00:58:38.139
This is good, we're going to have fun with this.

00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:42.039
I'm waiting for you to have one that I actually really care about.

00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:46.097
Most of the stuff it's like, yeah, get the vaccine, but I'm going to argue.

00:58:47.353 --> 00:58:48.478
Oh, I heard your own one.

00:58:48.478 --> 00:58:50.717
Ah, the one that wasn't playing.

00:58:50.717 --> 00:58:52.280
I got to play it here.

00:58:53.670 --> 00:58:54.793
It helps to play it inside.

00:58:54.813 --> 00:59:00.918
Yeah, let there we go All right, now that everybody's caught up.

00:59:01.751 --> 00:59:02.956
Am I supposed to know who this is?

00:59:02.956 --> 00:59:03.978
Or is this just a no?

00:59:03.978 --> 00:59:06.074
No, no, this is just another generic.

00:59:06.295 --> 00:59:10.416
Just another generic Black people.

00:59:10.416 --> 00:59:12.320
Here we go.

00:59:13.110 --> 00:59:21.902
I won't try to watch this video, but this die hard black Trump supporter who berated black people all during the election and after.

00:59:21.902 --> 00:59:28.755
She even called Trump her daddy and now she's asking for Black people help Watch this video.

00:59:28.755 --> 00:59:30.293
Y'all Watch this nonsense.

00:59:30.293 --> 00:59:31.335
Wait, wait, wait.

00:59:31.376 --> 00:59:34.101
Stop, stop scrolling Real quick.

00:59:34.101 --> 00:59:38.079
I just need you guys to support and help me to free my son.

00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:46.126
My son is 23 years old and he is currently facing 21 years of incarceration due to racial injustice.

00:59:46.126 --> 00:59:59.101
My son was defending himself and, unfortunately, most black and brown people, individuals whether you are a man or woman here in colorado do not have the right to use self-defense.

00:59:59.101 --> 01:00:01.878
The judge denied my son self-defense.

01:00:01.878 --> 01:00:06.342
Therefore, that same judge sentenced my son to 21 years in prison.

01:00:07.451 --> 01:00:10.559
Right now I am fighting to free my son.

01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:25.903
I have a strong appellate attorney and an attorney team, but right now we just need some support to put the word out there that racial injustice within the Black and brown community has gotten out of hand, and enough is enough.

01:00:25.903 --> 01:00:41.998
So if you guys could just simply engage with this post I'm not asking for any type of monetary value or any type of assistance or anything like that I just need for you guys to engage with this post, to put it out in the algorithm, so the word will get out there.

01:00:41.998 --> 01:00:43.335
So let's start from the bottom.

01:00:43.335 --> 01:00:50.878
Share the video, favorite the video and if you guys could comment, hashtag, enough is enough.

01:00:51.952 --> 01:01:00.230
Baby girl, you found your family when you were in the voter for Trump and you downplayed all the black people and say you found your family when you were in a voter for Trump and you downplayed all the black people and say you found your family.

01:01:00.230 --> 01:01:03.418
I know you're not asking for help from black people.

01:01:03.418 --> 01:01:04.420
I know you're not.

01:01:04.420 --> 01:01:06.215
You can't be this dumb.

01:01:06.215 --> 01:01:07.737
Think you're going to vote against us.

01:01:07.737 --> 01:01:10.659
I'm bad, against Kamala and everybody else.

01:01:10.659 --> 01:01:14.159
Then tell somebody to share and make this a web.

01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:16.476
Are you fucking crazy?

01:01:16.476 --> 01:01:19.304
You will get no help from none of us.

01:01:19.304 --> 01:01:20.931
You better call me.

01:01:21.411 --> 01:01:42.730
Okay, so I brought this up because this has been a very this has been a recurrent theme in my beloved community right, where you've had people who you know let's call them allies or like physical attributes of the Black community right.

01:01:42.730 --> 01:01:51.773
However, for whatever reason, they decide to go against their own interest or whatever you know, which is well within their right.

01:01:51.773 --> 01:02:09.465
But what we have a tendency to see, though, is when things hit the proverbial fan, when shit goes bad, when shit gets rough for them, they don't lean on the family or the people.

01:02:09.505 --> 01:02:10.045
In this case.

01:02:10.045 --> 01:02:21.409
She didn't appeal to the MAGA community to get her, you know, to support her incarcerated son when he was found of injustice to get her, you know, to support her incarcerated son when he was found of injustice.

01:02:21.409 --> 01:02:32.878
She wanted the same people who she had constantly berated and talked bad to and called all kinds of idiots, to come out now and support her, because you know we need to all be together.

01:02:32.878 --> 01:02:50.456
So I bring this up because how do you support someone of a different political leaning when they, you know, when they so staunchly, to the point of personally making it personal?

01:02:50.456 --> 01:03:01.673
I know you got people and you got people in your family, in your circle, who have extreme, you know differing political views than you do, and I have in mind as well.

01:03:01.673 --> 01:03:07.092
So I figured this would be a fun 30 minutes to kind of talk about, if you want to.

01:03:08.054 --> 01:03:13.418
Yeah, I mean yeah In this case, liberty it is, and I'll get into that, I'll get into that, I'll get into that a lot.

01:03:13.969 --> 01:03:19.563
So so that was that was my first response was the narrator is making this?

01:03:19.563 --> 01:03:26.378
Ironically, he's the one race baiting on this, right, there's a lot of assumptions.

01:03:26.378 --> 01:03:39.297
Again, we had a 60-second video, right, yeah, okay and Thad, here's the funny thing that you just said People don't care until the problem comes to their doorstep.

01:03:39.297 --> 01:03:55.186
It's never been on my doorstep, but Katie and I have had long discussions about the need for a judicial overhaul and that there are issues with the justice in this country and the racial some of the racial things.

01:03:55.186 --> 01:04:11.954
And if we want to review this is the argument I made it was basically okay, so you're a white judge or a black judge or a brown judge, it doesn't matter, right, and now you can go in and you can say well, that's not true, okay, this is just a scenario.

01:04:11.954 --> 01:04:15.081
It's not accurate, this is just descriptive.

01:04:15.190 --> 01:04:16.891
I love it when we got to start with disclaimers.

01:04:17.552 --> 01:04:18.614
Yeah, ok.

01:04:18.614 --> 01:04:30.697
So here's the argument is, if you have a judge up there and because of now you can say it's unfair because the police only go after black people, there's more black people in the cities.

01:04:30.697 --> 01:04:31.661
What a blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:04:31.661 --> 01:04:36.695
Right, ok, the judge sees nine black people come in front of him in a row.

01:04:36.695 --> 01:04:47.806
The judge sees nine black people come in front of him in a row and it doesn't matter what they did, right, parking tickets, speeding assault, grand theft, auto theft, blah, blah, blah.

01:04:47.806 --> 01:05:00.512
And then the 10th guy is a white guy.

01:05:00.512 --> 01:05:05.144
Does the judge whatever Rachel background, the judge is did the judge look at that and go, oh, at least this guy's not a black guy or girl, right, and so well, because of that, you know what?

01:05:05.144 --> 01:05:07.190
Six months right, and it's unfair.

01:05:08.150 --> 01:05:32.630
I'm just saying that as a possibility, and KJ and I we've talked about this and unfortunately the fix can't happen because constitutionally it bumps up against the right to be in front of your accuser, because the only fair way, like justice is blind, lady Justice has the blindfold on.

01:05:32.630 --> 01:05:50.543
So what should happen and the only way to make it fair is that a defendant basically comes up behind a screen and all you hear is the voice and even then you can tell some people socioeconomic, some of the accents you are more likely to hear.

01:05:50.543 --> 01:05:55.208
Certain people have certain accents and so you can kind of judge, unfairly judged, from those.

01:05:55.208 --> 01:06:21.697
So maybe you have to go to transcript, right, and it says this person, you can't even say male or female, was an adult, can't say what age, is accused of stealing a car, can't say where, because now you might identify somebody because of the neighborhood and they are saying they didn't do it.

01:06:23.141 --> 01:06:25.958
Okay, how do you judge that fairly?

01:06:25.958 --> 01:06:29.976
Because you can't see the person, you can't hear him, all you have is accused of.

01:06:29.976 --> 01:06:31.559
Is that even enough to hold somebody?

01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:32.101
I don't know?

01:06:32.101 --> 01:06:34.849
The police say here's the basic information.

01:06:34.849 --> 01:06:37.153
But now the basic information is you can't even go into.

01:06:37.153 --> 01:06:40.661
Hey, we have a camera, we have a video of this person.

01:06:40.661 --> 01:06:45.998
Well, the judge can't see the video because now we know if it's male, female, white, black, brown, purple.

01:06:47.001 --> 01:06:48.349
So the answer is you can't do it.

01:06:48.389 --> 01:06:49.630
So there's going to be bias.

01:06:49.630 --> 01:06:52.112
There's going to naturally be bias, no matter who it is.

01:06:52.112 --> 01:06:55.974
It might be a white judge saying, oh, I don't like these black people.

01:06:55.974 --> 01:06:59.657
Or it might be a white judge going, hey, I'm going to give the white guy a little more leeway.

01:06:59.657 --> 01:07:03.579
And ironically I think we've talked about this- you have a black judge who might go.

01:07:04.161 --> 01:07:04.601
You know what?

01:07:04.601 --> 01:07:10.045
I'm going to be more harsh to these black kids because they should know better, right?

01:07:10.045 --> 01:07:17.114
I think the stats you said that the stats were that black judges were actually more harsh towards other black individuals, right, were actually more harsh towards other black individuals, right?

01:07:17.114 --> 01:07:28.994
So are we going to get to the point where AI is the only thing that AI is able to look at and go here's fair, here's what the fairness is as far as the political view goes.

01:07:29.755 --> 01:07:38.956
All right, if you have listened to us at all, you know that my older brother and I could not be further apart politically Just can't be.

01:07:38.956 --> 01:07:52.130
He is an expat living in Germany who is a far leftist who believes that crystals protected his children, thinks the US government is just absolutely.

01:07:52.130 --> 01:07:56.702
Trump is a full-on Hitler 2.0, blah, blah, blah.

01:07:56.702 --> 01:08:00.940
And I am a conservative militaristic chaplain.

01:08:00.940 --> 01:08:20.777
If my brother and my brother and I have not literally have not had a real conversation well over 10 years I mean, I saw him when my dad died in 2020 on the video camera and he actually said something kind of asshole-ish which was very consistent for him.

01:08:20.777 --> 01:08:27.298
But if he called me up and said hey, man, I really need help.

01:08:27.298 --> 01:08:30.858
I'm having a problem with whatever.

01:08:30.858 --> 01:08:37.390
I follow you on Facebook and I know that you have this contact, that you know that that might be able to help.

01:08:37.390 --> 01:08:38.452
Would you be willing to help?

01:08:38.452 --> 01:08:44.568
Of course, because it's family, right, kj?

01:08:44.627 --> 01:08:46.032
You and I disagree on a lot of things.

01:08:46.032 --> 01:08:50.180
If you call me up, you know I'm there for you, right?

01:08:50.180 --> 01:08:51.203
I have friends that are.

01:08:51.203 --> 01:08:57.079
I have a friend that is an avowed communist who lives in Seattle.

01:08:57.079 --> 01:09:14.313
We used to have debates all the time If he called and we haven't had a, we have not spoken face-to-face in over 20 years If it was within my power, if he called me up or sent me a IM that said hey, man, I'm really struggling, I'm really in trouble, could you help me out?

01:09:14.313 --> 01:09:16.140
I would do it.

01:09:16.140 --> 01:09:24.481
If I mean, if it was reasonable, within my power, sure, because those friendships, that's what makes friends, that's what makes loyalty.

01:09:24.481 --> 01:09:30.502
And I think the premise of that video by saying well, here's a woman who supported Trump.

01:09:30.502 --> 01:09:39.655
The implication is that because she supported Trump, is that because she supported Trump, she turned her back on her blackness.

01:09:39.655 --> 01:09:42.537
She turned her back on her.

01:09:42.537 --> 01:09:44.918
That's the implication of the video.

01:09:44.958 --> 01:09:47.060
I know I'll give you a little backstory on it.

01:09:47.060 --> 01:09:52.685
She has on her Snapchat, her Instagram and her Twitter.

01:09:52.685 --> 01:09:56.768
It's not that she is just a MAGA voter.

01:09:56.768 --> 01:10:12.878
She has been extremely, extremely negative toward the black community.

01:10:12.878 --> 01:10:37.382
Know why, but America has gotten so comfortable with writing bad checks to African Americans that it's just, it's almost a given that no matter what I do or no matter how egregious the, the, the, the issue is Black America is going to forgive me, and you got you know, you got.

01:10:37.382 --> 01:10:41.877
Issue is black america is gonna forgive you, and you got, you know, you got god, pick a celebrity.

01:10:41.877 --> 01:10:45.989
Right oj wouldn't even, wouldn't even, you know, wouldn't even associate with the black community.

01:10:45.989 --> 01:10:52.092
The minute he got caught caught up with his accident, the first thing he did is he ran to a black church, right it's.

01:10:52.092 --> 01:10:55.557
It's almost like we caught up with his what now?

01:10:56.359 --> 01:10:59.724
I've never heard it called an accident that's so.

01:10:59.783 --> 01:11:01.492
What I'm saying is is people will.

01:11:01.492 --> 01:11:08.770
People will use the, the black community, almost as a, as a redemption story, right?

01:11:08.770 --> 01:11:11.454
So no matter what I say, biden did it.

01:11:11.454 --> 01:11:13.056
Biden was a a.

01:11:13.056 --> 01:11:17.885
Biden was in in the 80s, biden was in the 60s.

01:11:17.885 --> 01:11:31.591
I mean, if you can look at what Trump has said and call him a racist, then I will present to you Joseph Biden, senator Joseph Biden in the 80s and early 90s.

01:11:31.591 --> 01:11:36.000
You'd probably have a completely different view of Senator Biden, right?

01:11:38.493 --> 01:11:47.340
And the funny thing is, if you look back, then Biden and Trump would have, because in the 80s Trump was an icon in the black community.

01:11:47.949 --> 01:11:48.954
He was a badass dude.

01:11:48.954 --> 01:11:55.264
But see, I bring that point up to say that Obama rehabbed Biden's reputation.

01:11:55.264 --> 01:11:56.430
You know what I'm saying?

01:11:56.430 --> 01:12:00.054
So much so, to the point to where now people would be like, oh I love Joe Biden.

01:12:00.054 --> 01:12:02.199
No, joe Biden hasn't fucking changed.

01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:03.551
He's still the same guy.

01:12:03.551 --> 01:12:07.300
He just got cred, or, as the people like to say, it's cred right.

01:12:07.319 --> 01:12:12.295
So they tend to use Black people as these redemption stories and writing bad checks.

01:12:12.295 --> 01:12:15.500
And this video is a parent of that.

01:12:15.500 --> 01:12:15.819
Right.

01:12:15.819 --> 01:12:26.264
So she went to, she went to her MAGA community, right, who she, who she championed for and stumped for and turned her back on our community for.

01:12:26.264 --> 01:12:33.711
And what she found out really quickly was the love was not reciprocated, right.

01:12:33.711 --> 01:12:37.458
So what she was?

01:12:37.458 --> 01:12:39.342
She was essentially a nomad at that point.

01:12:39.342 --> 01:12:48.590
So what she's trying to do now is come back and say, oh well, we need to rally together black people as a people because it's racial injustice.

01:12:48.729 --> 01:12:53.962
Well, where the fuck was the racial injustice when you were talking all that trash for the last couple of years?

01:12:53.962 --> 01:12:59.271
It's like and you can respectfully love somebody, right, you can, because I.

01:12:59.271 --> 01:12:59.972
So I have a.

01:12:59.972 --> 01:13:08.854
I have a conservative friend of mine who is extremely conservative, much like this young lady, right, and I love that friend to death.

01:13:08.854 --> 01:13:10.216
I love that friend to death.

01:13:10.216 --> 01:13:14.384
But at the same time, I'm all about lessons.

01:13:14.384 --> 01:13:14.711
Right?

01:13:14.711 --> 01:13:28.981
If you decide to step your butt over a ledge, right, if I say, hey, man, don't go over there, there's a ledge over there, and you decide to go too far to that ledge and you decide to fall off, you can't then call me and say, hey, help me, now's the time for help.

01:13:28.981 --> 01:13:37.114
No, the time for help was when I was telling you there was danger ahead and you told me to fuck off, right, because you knew better than me, right?

01:13:37.114 --> 01:13:39.099
So when you find yourself.

01:13:39.118 --> 01:13:43.632
That's a great analogy, though let's use you and me.

01:13:43.632 --> 01:13:48.335
I'm on that ledge, I'm walking, I'm going hey, man, I'm going and you're like don't go over there.

01:13:48.335 --> 01:13:51.689
Hey, that's unstable ground, man, don't go over there.

01:13:51.689 --> 01:13:54.738
I'm like, yeah, but I really want to go see the view Doesn't matter.

01:13:54.738 --> 01:14:00.716
Doesn't say you're going over Ground, want to go see the view, doesn't matter it's unsafe, you're going over.

01:14:00.716 --> 01:14:02.322
Brown gives away and I'm hanging there by my fingertips.

01:14:02.322 --> 01:14:03.846
I'm like aj help, you're going fuck you man.

01:14:03.867 --> 01:14:07.479
No, not to go over there really I told you, but I'll, and I'll give you an.

01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:09.591
I'm glad you brought that up because I'll give you an example.

01:14:09.591 --> 01:14:14.430
Right throughout this whole build up for trump, what was one of the major concerns I told you?

01:14:14.430 --> 01:14:18.229
I said it's, it's, it was never him, it was about the people he surrounded himself with.

01:14:18.229 --> 01:14:20.497
I beat that drum.

01:14:20.497 --> 01:14:24.317
Your whole thing was wait, let's just wait and see, let's just wait and see.

01:14:24.317 --> 01:14:27.975
The more we wait and see, the more evidence we build.

01:14:27.975 --> 01:14:30.676
I can't at this point.

01:14:30.676 --> 01:14:34.436
If you were to get to a point, I'll give you an example.

01:14:34.436 --> 01:14:39.880
I had a veteran buddy of mine who was another guy, completely separate.

01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:47.899
He was a Trump, 100% Flags on the back of his truck.

01:14:48.110 --> 01:14:49.376
Now I know you're not talking about me.

01:14:49.850 --> 01:14:52.628
No, no, no Flags on his truck, Bumper stickers, the whole nine.

01:14:52.628 --> 01:14:54.095
He was mega, mega, mega.

01:14:54.095 --> 01:15:00.219
I was like, hey, man, you should really be concerned because you got a lot of toys.

01:15:00.219 --> 01:15:05.341
Your income is cool now, but you got a lot of toys, a lot of mortgages.

01:15:05.341 --> 01:15:07.194
You're over leveraged.

01:15:07.194 --> 01:15:09.079
You should probably start reeling some of that stuff.

01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:13.530
But no, no, I'm going to get more because Trump's going to fix the economy and you know we're going to.

01:15:13.530 --> 01:15:15.051
We're going to make America great again.

01:15:15.051 --> 01:15:17.493
Well, this, we're going to make America great again.

01:15:17.493 --> 01:15:18.052
What was this?

01:15:18.052 --> 01:15:23.216
This was the last time I talked to him was right before the election, right before we did the election night.

01:15:23.216 --> 01:15:25.216
Special Was this 45 or 47?

01:15:25.237 --> 01:15:25.938
No 47.

01:15:25.938 --> 01:15:26.658
This is 47.

01:15:27.078 --> 01:15:28.019
Yeah, this is 47.

01:15:28.179 --> 01:15:29.259
This is last November.

01:15:29.259 --> 01:15:31.900
So come to find out.

01:15:31.900 --> 01:15:37.404
He was one of the guys cut excuse me, doing the first veteran wave, right.

01:15:37.404 --> 01:15:43.648
So I reach out to him hey man, how you doing you?

01:15:43.648 --> 01:15:50.070
Ok, man, I should have listened to you, I should, and I told him.

01:15:50.070 --> 01:15:53.333
I said I appreciate it, but now is not the time to tell me that, because I told you for months what it was going to be.

01:15:53.354 --> 01:16:13.511
Now that it affects you, now that you you know, now that you're, now that you're over leveraged, and now you don't have a job and the job market's tough, like all of these things, I was telling you beforehand and you told me to fuck off because I know what I was talking about and I'm just, you know, I just hate Trump and you know, I'm just, I'm up, come on.

01:16:13.551 --> 01:16:16.421
Like he would say crazy stuff, like you know, get out of Kamala's ass and this, that and the other.

01:16:16.421 --> 01:16:17.043
Ok, cool, man, good luck.

01:16:17.043 --> 01:16:18.268
So now that you're down and out, you hit me up.

01:16:18.268 --> 01:16:22.202
Hey, man, I'm short, can you loan me $300, this and the other?

01:16:22.202 --> 01:16:24.470
Now we're really close, so it doesn't matter.

01:16:24.470 --> 01:16:41.203
We're close because we throw money back and forth, so the money part is not the issue, but the fact that I've told you that this was going to happen to you and you basically told me to go take a walk, you know, to the other side of town and you come back and then you say, hey, man, can you help me out?

01:16:41.203 --> 01:16:45.715
No, man, I can't, because I tried to help you and you didn't want my help.

01:16:46.034 --> 01:17:06.546
So now, but but I the cause and effect here right, because I go back to the whole thing of when they talk about people losing their jobs in the federal government and you see this stuff on X and it says, oh, is this what you voted for?

01:17:06.546 --> 01:17:09.398
Yeah, that's what I voted for.

01:17:09.398 --> 01:17:13.240
I think the federal government should be cut between 10 and 20 percent.

01:17:13.240 --> 01:17:20.644
And if that means, if that means friends of mine that are federal workers get cut, it sucks, I get it.

01:17:21.029 --> 01:17:28.413
But you know what I've been laid off before you think, when I got laid off from a supervisory position 20-odd years ago.

01:17:28.413 --> 01:17:30.399
That pushed me towards a different path.

01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:31.962
I was like oh, that's not fair.

01:17:31.962 --> 01:17:33.252
How come other people got to?

01:17:33.313 --> 01:17:35.015
stay and I didn't.

01:17:35.015 --> 01:17:41.155
And you could say, could say, well, you didn't vote for, it doesn't matter, that's life and and there's no, there isn't.

01:17:41.155 --> 01:17:43.701
And just because trump got in, that wasn't like.

01:17:43.701 --> 01:17:46.634
Oh you, you voted for trump, therefore you got fired.

01:17:46.634 --> 01:17:55.872
It happens, I mean, that there's nothing that says that harris getting in, he wouldn't have got fired anyway.

01:17:55.872 --> 01:17:57.774
It's possible, I don't know.

01:17:57.774 --> 01:18:18.050
But the thing with this video that you showed, I think it's tough because if now again context, presumption of innocence- all that stuff right Again.

01:18:18.069 --> 01:18:19.953
context, presumption of innocence, all that stuff, right.

01:18:19.953 --> 01:18:29.485
I look at that and say here's a few points I'd love to find out before I hook line and sink her on what she's saying, right, because she's a MAGA, she's conservative, I support Trump.

01:18:31.351 --> 01:18:31.773
So I should be okay.

01:18:37.438 --> 01:18:37.859
Colorado.

01:18:37.859 --> 01:18:40.211
Okay, colorado votes blue.

01:18:40.211 --> 01:18:41.412
What kind of who was the judge?

01:18:41.412 --> 01:18:43.393
We don't know the racial makeup of the judge.

01:18:43.393 --> 01:18:45.774
We don't know what the situation was.

01:18:45.774 --> 01:18:50.438
We don't know if it really was self-defense, like she it goes back to.

01:18:50.438 --> 01:18:54.319
She can say all day long it was unfair.

01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:55.801
The judge didn't do this.

01:18:55.801 --> 01:18:57.721
The judge didn't do that Right.

01:18:57.721 --> 01:19:15.350
Last time I checked, you still have a trial by jury, so 12 people found your son guilty of assault, right.

01:19:15.369 --> 01:19:16.011
Is there injustice in America?

01:19:16.011 --> 01:19:16.212
Is there?

01:19:16.212 --> 01:19:17.296
Is there a imperfect judicial system?

01:19:17.296 --> 01:19:22.538
Well, yeah, of course it's still probably the best, one of the better systems, but there's always flaws.

01:19:22.538 --> 01:19:26.235
And if you think, you know, there's definitely a two-tiered system.

01:19:26.235 --> 01:19:37.051
It's those with money and those that don't have money like, realistically, if you're able to have a good lawyer, okay, but it's not a two-tiered, but it's not a two to it.

01:19:37.051 --> 01:19:48.724
While I can understand the perception of a two tiered system based on race, it's very different than other places in the world and it's interesting.

01:19:48.764 --> 01:19:50.225
You brought this up because I saw this today.

01:19:50.225 --> 01:19:53.951
I'm going to drop the link.

01:19:53.951 --> 01:20:01.645
And KJ, so in Great Britain they have this council that determined it comes out.

01:20:01.645 --> 01:20:16.783
They basically say this is what we are going to suggest when it comes to sentencing, I have a thing called, so they have the normal sentencing counsel.

01:20:16.783 --> 01:20:24.293
So the sentencing counsel is who comes out and says here's what we think the guidelines.

01:20:24.293 --> 01:20:25.478
This is what the guidelines are.

01:20:25.478 --> 01:20:36.078
So if you are convicted of stabbing somebody, this is what you should be charged, this is how long you should be in jail.

01:20:36.078 --> 01:20:45.189
It's kind of like, back in the day, the sentencing guidelines for the US federal government and there were a lot of problems, right.

01:20:45.189 --> 01:20:50.820
So the sentencing council came out, but then they said, as a caveat, here's the sentencing.

01:20:50.820 --> 01:20:59.500
But you have to take into account the age, the gender and the race of the individual.

01:20:59.500 --> 01:21:21.881
And if any of those are a minority, if they are female, if they are a person of color or if they are well, person of color kind of covers it female or person of color, or a certain age 25 or younger you have to sentence them less for the same crime.

01:21:23.369 --> 01:21:25.377
And so the outcry has been wait a minute.

01:21:25.377 --> 01:21:32.278
You're saying if a white guy who's 40 stabs somebody, let's say it's a street fight, okay.

01:21:32.278 --> 01:21:41.761
A white guy who's 40 stabs another dude, the sentencing is 10 years in jail, okay.

01:21:41.761 --> 01:21:56.712
But if it's a 22-year-old black female who stabs somebody else you should only sentence them for five years because you don't understand how hard their life has been, and so England's going whoa, wait a minute.

01:21:56.712 --> 01:21:59.337
Understand how hard their life has been, and so England's going whoa, wait a minute.

01:21:59.417 --> 01:22:15.377
You can't have two different sets of guidelines Like that is a two Now they're making it legitimately like hey, here's your you talk about the DEI, here's your EO you get the benefit of if you're age, whatever.

01:22:15.377 --> 01:22:18.052
Instead of that, just hey, there's one for everybody.

01:22:18.052 --> 01:22:28.858
And that's why, to me, sentencing guidelines have always been horrible in terms of both, because you have people who, oh, I don't know.

01:22:28.858 --> 01:22:36.095
A white male swimmer from Stanford who rapes a girl who's passed out in the street gets six months.

01:22:36.095 --> 01:22:39.081
So it goes horribly wrong that way.

01:22:39.081 --> 01:22:40.483
All the way to.

01:22:40.483 --> 01:22:48.222
You know a, a, I can't think of one specifically right now but a black female who I don't know.

01:22:50.172 --> 01:22:53.641
Changed her address so that she could vote in the election and get six years.

01:22:54.229 --> 01:22:55.453
Yeah, get six years, that's a great one.

01:22:55.453 --> 01:22:57.319
Yeah, perfect, yeah, exactly Right.

01:22:57.319 --> 01:23:01.020
You know, the January 6th versus the BLm blah, blah, blah.

01:23:01.020 --> 01:23:03.810
There's always yeah, and so to me, that's where.

01:23:03.810 --> 01:23:18.766
That's where the, the system, is supposed to be in the hands of, supposed to be supposed to be in the hands of the jury, but juries are idiots.

01:23:18.766 --> 01:23:35.355
Juries award people millions of dollars because somebody used talcum powder for 50 years and developed cancer after 50 years, so we're going to award that person a billion dollars.

01:23:35.355 --> 01:23:46.061
Juries are idiots, right, because they come from the general population, like I it says a jury of your peers, jury of your peers right.

01:23:46.884 --> 01:23:52.078
Okay, if I was arrested, let's say I don't know.

01:23:52.139 --> 01:23:53.202
Let's take this a little more.

01:23:53.202 --> 01:24:05.399
Let's say and I can't go into all of it, although soon I will be able to let's say I was charged in the military.

01:24:05.399 --> 01:24:17.864
We have this thing called the UCMJ Uniform Code of Military Justice and let's say I was charged under UCMJ for whatever right.

01:24:17.864 --> 01:24:20.076
I was charged under UCMJ for whatever right.

01:24:20.076 --> 01:24:33.056
Ucmj for what's a good one Disrespecting an officer, right, disrespecting a senior officer, which I didn't do.

01:24:33.056 --> 01:24:33.599
But let's just use that.

01:24:33.599 --> 01:24:34.161
And I pushed.

01:24:34.161 --> 01:24:36.033
I said no, I want a court-martial.

01:24:36.033 --> 01:24:46.457
Ask me right now if I would trust 12 other chaplains to be my jury.

01:24:46.457 --> 01:24:52.355
That's not just no, that's the big old hell.

01:24:52.355 --> 01:24:55.954
No, I'll tell you right now.

01:24:55.954 --> 01:25:02.099
I would rather have a random group of brand new E1s.

01:25:02.099 --> 01:25:02.900
Judge me.

01:25:04.363 --> 01:25:06.817
Wait, wait, now that you got that story out, because I've been holding it.

01:25:06.817 --> 01:25:10.768
Wait, you said I made that up, though I have not been charged with using that.

01:25:10.768 --> 01:25:13.645
You said they elect a jury.

01:25:13.645 --> 01:25:15.588
They elect a jury of peers.

01:25:15.588 --> 01:25:21.637
So you got 12 people from society Allegedly, yeah, they're idiots.

01:25:21.637 --> 01:25:22.702
But wait though.

01:25:22.702 --> 01:25:25.859
That's like secondhandly saying they're idiots.

01:25:30.541 --> 01:25:32.595
Liberty I hope that's the sarcasm font.

01:25:34.032 --> 01:25:36.002
Oh, that's why I was over here cracking up.

01:25:36.002 --> 01:25:39.997
I'm like man the chaplain just called society a bunch of idiots.

01:25:39.997 --> 01:25:41.041
We in trouble man.

01:25:43.033 --> 01:25:46.341
KJ, do you remember what the chaplain's personal motto is?

01:25:46.341 --> 01:25:51.860
I'm going to type my personal motto oh, my God.

01:25:51.860 --> 01:25:56.369
And I am going to post it so everybody can see exactly what my personal motto is.

01:25:56.369 --> 01:26:02.510
This has been my personal model for a long time oh my god, man, that is hilarious.

01:26:02.510 --> 01:26:16.081
It's that on my beard, all right that'd be really funny if I misspelled this god that is there you go, kj.

01:26:16.601 --> 01:26:24.516
That is Chaplain O'Neill's personal motto and has been, and it has never let me down.

01:26:24.516 --> 01:26:28.936
Did it post?

01:26:28.936 --> 01:26:33.177
Yeah, it posted On my side.

01:26:33.177 --> 01:26:33.760
It didn't show up.

01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:37.520
If you can't see it.

01:26:37.520 --> 01:26:41.962
My personal motto is never underestimate the stupidity of people.

01:26:41.962 --> 01:26:45.118
That motto has never let me down.

01:26:45.118 --> 01:26:49.359
Oh, so I would.

01:26:49.359 --> 01:26:57.141
I'm telling you right now there's there, it's society writ large, are idiots.

01:26:57.141 --> 01:27:05.884
Look, if I get on a jury, I'm sure one of two sides is going to call me an idiot, depending on which way I go.

01:27:05.884 --> 01:27:08.594
I've never done jury duty.

01:27:08.594 --> 01:27:09.577
I've been called.

01:27:09.577 --> 01:27:10.539
I've never got on it.

01:27:10.539 --> 01:27:14.940
Okay, final thought I'd love to do jury duty, just for the experience at some point.

01:27:15.970 --> 01:27:16.954
But I want a real one.

01:27:17.130 --> 01:27:18.796
I want to be like 12 angry men.

01:27:18.796 --> 01:27:21.296
I'm going to convince them.

01:27:21.296 --> 01:27:27.561
Right, but because people have bias, right.

01:27:27.561 --> 01:27:30.679
So this woman to go back, the woman on the video.

01:27:30.679 --> 01:27:34.059
She turns around and she's black.

01:27:34.059 --> 01:27:35.996
Therefore she believes it's injustice.

01:27:35.996 --> 01:27:38.311
So that's where the bias goes, right, she has it.

01:27:38.311 --> 01:27:39.895
Now she wants to reach out to the black community.

01:27:39.895 --> 01:27:46.639
Well, is she really going to reach out to the white community to say there's injustice in the, in the judicial system?

01:27:46.639 --> 01:27:48.323
That's the gotcha, gotcha.

01:27:48.770 --> 01:27:58.880
So she reached out to her MAGA community, because we're in a post-racial, post-artist society, right and they and they probably said your kid was guilty.

01:27:58.880 --> 01:28:10.823
She found out really quickly that, let's see, they don't have the care or concern for her well-being or her offspring's well-being as she believed.

01:28:10.823 --> 01:28:12.510
It doesn't matter.

01:28:12.510 --> 01:28:13.631
I'll tell you right now she could have been a.

01:28:13.671 --> 01:28:13.891
BLM matter.

01:28:13.891 --> 01:28:14.212
She could.

01:28:14.212 --> 01:28:20.479
I'll tell you right now, she could have been a BLM all over George Floyd.

01:28:20.479 --> 01:28:25.283
George Floyd is the martyr of the 21st century.

01:28:25.283 --> 01:28:27.766
Blm is the greatest blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:28:27.766 --> 01:28:32.690
And her kid gets arrested and convicted.

01:28:32.690 --> 01:28:33.832
And she could have gone to BLM and said please help.

01:28:33.832 --> 01:28:35.974
And they would have said no, because it doesn't work that way.

01:28:35.974 --> 01:28:36.895
Probably no, because it doesn't work that way.

01:28:36.914 --> 01:28:40.597
Probably, loyalty to organizations only goes one way.

01:28:40.597 --> 01:28:44.042
I've said this for years now.

01:28:44.042 --> 01:28:46.384
I can love the chaplain corps.

01:28:46.384 --> 01:28:48.626
The chaplain corps doesn't love me.

01:28:48.626 --> 01:29:04.314
The chaplain corps basically and I've had this proven to me couldn't care less about me legitimately, could not get involved in a situation that was happening to me and my career.

01:29:04.314 --> 01:29:10.153
There's a reason I'm retiring this summer and in part it's because the chaplain.

01:29:10.193 --> 01:29:10.854
They said good luck.

01:29:10.854 --> 01:29:12.719
Wish you well.

01:29:12.719 --> 01:29:14.443
Let us know how it worked out for you.

01:29:14.443 --> 01:29:16.371
What?

01:29:16.610 --> 01:29:20.916
Yep, I had a senior chaplain who was a good friend of mine.

01:29:20.916 --> 01:29:23.019
Say sorry, I can't write an endorsement letter.

01:29:23.019 --> 01:29:26.662
Oh, I'm not there, I'm not involved, I can't write a letter.

01:29:26.662 --> 01:29:34.271
Okay, insanity, I still love the guy.

01:29:34.271 --> 01:29:41.159
But it's coming, you guys, whatever, the first Sunday after July 31st, that's going to be the story time.

01:29:41.159 --> 01:29:44.918
I am and my wife has said don't you dare.

01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:47.716
Oh no, I think we're going to run ads for that one.

01:29:47.716 --> 01:29:48.838
That one's going to be.

01:29:48.979 --> 01:29:53.020
That will be and I will name names I will have.

01:29:53.020 --> 01:29:58.542
If anybody wants, I will have the documents for anybody who wants them?

01:30:00.951 --> 01:30:03.377
We are out of time, holy scamoles.

01:30:03.377 --> 01:30:03.899
I think that's.

01:30:03.899 --> 01:30:08.801
We're out of time, man.

01:30:08.801 --> 01:30:11.894
We got to pick that up next week, so we'll see you guys.

01:30:11.894 --> 01:30:15.542
Same bat time, same bat channel next week Chappy, you have a great week.

01:30:15.542 --> 01:30:16.467
Man, we are out of here.

01:30:16.467 --> 01:30:16.855
Pogues out.

01:30:16.855 --> 01:30:19.498
Same bat channel next week chappy, you have a great week.

01:30:19.559 --> 01:30:21.640
Man, we are out of here.

01:30:21.640 --> 01:30:23.002
What do you want to do tonight?

01:30:23.603 --> 01:30:25.385
the same thing we do every night.

01:30:25.385 --> 01:30:27.667
Pinky, try to take over the world.

01:30:27.667 --> 01:30:34.243
All right, yo let's get into it, try to take over the world.

01:30:34.610 --> 01:30:36.556
You're preaching try to take over the world.

01:30:36.556 --> 01:30:37.319
They're preaching freedom.

01:30:37.338 --> 01:30:44.018
They're trying to take over the world and bring Chaplin in the world.

01:30:44.018 --> 01:30:45.917
They're trying to take over the world.